You guys had a riot? On account of me? A real riot?

Jayne ,'Jaynestown'


Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned  

A place to talk about movies--Old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


Jessica - Mar 05, 2005 5:09:44 am PST #9674 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I do have a serious question here, Jess. How can you hold Neil LaBute to being more offensive than Lars Von Trier (minus his earlier, more stylish movies)? At least Neil doesn't induce vomiting with his shakey-cam. I think they are both about equal in treating human beings like shit (with a special emphasis on women, possibly).

That's a fair question. I find Lars von Trier to be a cold and soulless human who also somehow manages to make brilliantly evocative films. I've never understood the misogyny charges against him (and here, I must make an aside, because I just went over to Google to check the spelling of misogyny, and the sponsored link on the sidebar was this:

Christian Men
Who Hate Women
Only $9.74. (or order used).
Amazon.com

..which was too funny not to share. Back to serious now.)

Anyway, the vibe I get off of Lars' films is that everyone is his puppet, and horrible things will happen to them. He's not a misogynist, he's a sociopath. He makes horrible things happen to women in his movies because, historically, women have had the short end of the stick, and so seeing them beaten down on film is that much harder to watch, and he wants his audience a broken bleeding shattered wreck. Why I find this fascinating rather than offensive probably has something to do with why I also identified so much with Anya over the years.

Neil LaButte, I think is a misogynist and a talentless hack. Everything about his films makes me want to hurt him, badly. (I've had people try to convince me that In The Company of Men was on the woman's side, but I'm not buying it. The vibe I get off his films is that he has never spoken to a woman in his life, and wouldn't bother wasting his time doing so if given the opportunity, because frankly, we're just not worth that much attention.)

The other thing is that Lars is pretty straightforward about his "dance, puppets!" attitude towards the rest of humanity. Neil seems to think he's actually a feminist.

The problem with him directing Wicker Man is that I've seen what his conception of feminism is, and my skin is crawling just trying to imagine what his concept of paganism is.


Scrappy - Mar 05, 2005 9:55:25 am PST #9675 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Saw Spanglish last night (hooray for free screeners). It was incredibly dreary.


Sean K - Mar 05, 2005 12:01:15 pm PST #9676 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

The problem with him directing Wicker Man is that I've seen what his conception of feminism is, and my skin is crawling just trying to imagine what his concept of paganism is.

I'm dreading the new ending they probably tacked on, Where Cage's character breaks out of the wicker man, hunts down the leaders of the local pagans and stuffs them in the wicker man, and says, "Who's the Wicker Man now, bitch?" before lighting them all on fire and watching them die screaming.


Jessica - Mar 05, 2005 12:15:47 pm PST #9677 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

But on the plus side, we'd then have a movie with the line "Who's the Wicker Man now, bitch?" in it.


Sean K - Mar 05, 2005 12:43:19 pm PST #9678 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

But on the plus side, we'd then have a movie with the line "Who's the Wicker Man now, bitch?" in it.

Hee!


Steph L. - Mar 05, 2005 1:37:21 pm PST #9679 of 10001
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

Has this trailer to Hitchhiker's Guide been linked yet: [link] ?

If so, sorry. Go watch it again.


JZ - Mar 05, 2005 4:00:30 pm PST #9680 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Splendid trailer! I am commencing to not panic just now.

Emmett and I just got back from The Pacifier.

Analysis: A lot of stuff happened. Cute kids. Teen girl totally doing S1 Buffy. Also, Vin Diesel is occasionally shirtless, and Vin Diesel shirtless inspired audible gasps from most of the women and not a few of the men in the audience at the showing we attended, immediately followed by an awed, reverent hush. The same gasp-and-hush occurred very late in the film during a brief scene of Vin in a snug short-sleeved shirt snuzzling a giggling toddler. Oh, dear God, the pretty.

Plot, writing, directing, all very paint-by-numbers and banal and blatantly manipulative. But oh so pretty. And he doesn't suck as an actor, and Lorelai Gilmore is also much more splendid than this kind of a movie deserves.

Did I mention the shirtless? 'Cause, damn.

Also notable: on the way out, Emmett looked at the marquee above the door across the hall and said, "Hey, can we see Million Dollar Baby next time?"

"Uh, NO."

He gave me a cross look. "But WHYNOTWHY?"

I reeled it all off quickly: Violent, scary, sad, people dying, scary grown-up things to think about, why the hell would he want to see it anyway?

He gave me a duh, like it's not obvious look. "There's a scene where a young guy gets beat up by an old man. AND, the old man is played by the old man who played God in Bruce Almighty! That'd be so tight! I totally want to see that!"

Still, um, NO.


Kathy A - Mar 05, 2005 4:55:24 pm PST #9681 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I just read over at Oscarwatch that Friday's Daily Mail reported a rumor of a movie version of Sondheim's Sweeney Todd, directed by Sam Mendes, possibly starring Russell Crowe as Sweeney and maybe Imelda Stauton as Mrs. Lovett! I'd definitely see this.


Dana - Mar 05, 2005 5:13:24 pm PST #9682 of 10001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

possibly starring Russell Crowe as Sweeney

t blink


P.M. Marc - Mar 05, 2005 6:00:48 pm PST #9683 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

The same gasp-and-hush occurred very late in the film during a brief scene of Vin in a snug short-sleeved shirt snuzzling a giggling toddler.

He apparently spent a lot of the time on the set playing with the kidlets and has now been gushing about wanting kids of his own.

Hmm. I may have to see this movie...