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Scrappy - Feb 28, 2005 9:36:11 am PST #9494 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

But top grossing stars are often not great actors or even in great movies. I mean, who has classic film fest of the movies of Tyrone Power?


§ ita § - Feb 28, 2005 9:38:38 am PST #9495 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But top grossing stars are often not great actors or even in great movies. I mean, who has classic film fest of the movies of Tyrone Power?

I think that between Samuel L. Jackson, Harrison Ford, Tom Hanks, Eddie Murphy, Tom Cruise, Bruce Willis, James Earl Jones, Mel Gibson, Jim Cummings, and Gene Hackman there are hours, if not days, of viewing fun.


Lyra Jane - Feb 28, 2005 9:39:05 am PST #9496 of 10001
Up with the sun

I don't have to add Schwarzenegger because he's temporarily retired.

To me, that helps keep him on the list -- if/when he leaves elected office, his films will probably still do pretty well on the strength of his charisma. But I can understand keeping him off given that all this is hypohetical.

Someone wake me when the only 4 real stars in Hollywood aren't 4 people who 9 times out of 10 make me run screaming from the theatre.

I think some of the things that make you (and this is more a people-like-you you, than a you-individually you) want to run screaming -- the big smiles and insistence that they be lovable!, and the media overexposure -- may also be the things that help make someone a big star. So this day may never come. Sorry.

And I agree that most actors now succeed or fail on the strength of the franchise, not on their own merits.


Scrappy - Feb 28, 2005 9:46:01 am PST #9497 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

ita, yeah, I meant that top stars may make some folk run screaming from the theater, but that's not a new phenomenon. There have always been actors and actresses who the public will happily pay to see, even if (maybe BECAUSE) they are in bad movies. I didn't mean to imply that being a top star means you are necessarily in bad stuff.


Nutty - Feb 28, 2005 9:50:44 am PST #9498 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I think putting Gene Hackman on the list is kind of like cheating -- his career is like a corporate bullpen session. There is no shit he has not thrown on the wall (sometimes, his acting skill elevates a crappy project into bizarre fun!), so it's not exactly a surprise that some of it has stuck. Same with Michael Caine.

Not that I can say anything bad about the man who starred in The Poseidon Adventure.


JohnSweden - Feb 28, 2005 9:52:12 am PST #9499 of 10001
I can't even.

John Ratzenberger, babee! Well, okay, just his voice, but still! Top ten!


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 28, 2005 10:06:09 am PST #9500 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

And I can't freaking believe how much Bruce Almighty made. Man, that movie was terrible.

I choose to believe it was because people wanted to see Morgan Freeman play God.


JohnSweden - Feb 28, 2005 10:24:43 am PST #9501 of 10001
I can't even.

I choose to believe it was because people wanted to see Morgan Freeman play God.

Uh, remember the trailer with the whole I GOT DE POWER - BOMP! with the skirt flying up in the air? I'm guessing that had appeal in certain quarters.


Lyra Jane - Feb 28, 2005 10:29:05 am PST #9502 of 10001
Up with the sun

Tangent break, but has any documentary ever even been nominated for best picture at the Oscars? I'm trying to explain to someone elsewhere on the Internet that it wasn't a slam on Michael Moore that he didn't get a best picture nomination, but rather a question of genre -- Moore gambled all-or-nothing for a best picture, and lost, which he probably should have foreseen, because they don't ever nominate docs in that category and I doubt F911 was so much better than every single documentary made in the last 77 years that it could jump that hurdle.

It would be helpful if I was not crazy wrong.


Steph L. - Feb 28, 2005 10:32:51 am PST #9503 of 10001
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

Someone wake me when the only 4 real stars in Hollywood aren't 4 people who 9 times out of 10 make me run screaming from the theatre.

Me, too. (Have all 4 ever appeared in the same movie? I'm assuming no, because that would be one hell of a weird movie.)