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Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned  

A place to talk about movies--Old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


beekaytee - Feb 08, 2005 10:30:43 am PST #8969 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

He's so dreamy.


Kate P. - Feb 08, 2005 10:52:38 am PST #8970 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

JZ, dooooo eeeeeeet. (I think I did know that you'd gone to HS with him, but anyway, I'd forgotten, so: very cool!)


evil jimi - Feb 09, 2005 1:31:29 am PST #8971 of 10001
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

How can it be a spoiler to comment on whether a fundamental piece of a story has been abandoned for the movie version. Zaphod has two heads and if they've made him without two heads, then talking about it is no more a spoiler than calling Jackson a wanker for deleting Tom Bombadil from FotR, while adding lengthy scenes of Isengard/Saruman that didn't exist in the book.


Jim - Feb 09, 2005 1:44:20 am PST #8972 of 10001
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

True, although I have to take issue with your FOTR point - the idea of spending 45 minutes with that twathammer and his poxy doggerel sends shivers down my spine.


evil jimi - Feb 09, 2005 1:46:52 am PST #8973 of 10001
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

evil jimi - Feb 09, 2005 1:52:18 am PST #8974 of 10001
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

d'oh! Should've just edited, instead of deleting the double post.

True, although I have to take issue with your FOTR point - the idea of spending 45 minutes with that twathammer and his poxy doggerel sends shivers down my spine.

Fair enough. Don't know that I would've wanted to spend too long with a screen version of Tom myself. However, it would've been reasonable to have a reduced version of him in, so the hobbits' wraith knives/swords could be explained properly.

As for HHGttG: I can't see it being a particularly good version.


Jim - Feb 09, 2005 2:10:14 am PST #8975 of 10001
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

Oh, yeah, having the Old Forest and the Barrows would have rocked, just no Bombadillotry.


§ ita § - Feb 09, 2005 3:37:33 am PST #8976 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Our FotR spoiler rules were such that Tom Bombadil's omission was a spoiler, though.

So this is consistent. Because that's about what happens in the movie, not about the books which have been out and read for donkey's years.


Kalshane - Feb 09, 2005 5:27:13 am PST #8977 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I'm not thrilled about the change to Zaphod myself, particularly if it's the nose thing but I'm trying to keep in mind that Adams wrote the original draft of the screenplay and he liked to make every version of the HHGttG different from the others. The book is not the radio play is not the mini-series is not the video game is not, apparently, the movie. That said, I still would have prefered a more faithful adaptation in the book, particularly in this case.

On the other hand, firmly in the "So glad Tom Bombadil wasn't in the movies" camp.


JohnSweden - Feb 09, 2005 5:36:15 am PST #8978 of 10001
I can't even.

firmly in the "So glad Tom Bombadil wasn't in the movies" camp

So, so wrong. Eldest needed to be in there, just for the barrow-wight sequence. You don't do the whole thing, but a couple of heydol-derrydols would have done a world of good.