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Steph L. - Jan 28, 2005 5:56:22 am PST #8535 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

(although I'm not sure if this list refers to the Special Edition or the original release. We own the SE)

Oh, good point. I have the SE, too.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 28, 2005 5:57:25 am PST #8536 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

But it was released theatrically in 35mm. I'd be very surprised if it wasn't shot in widescreen.

Would it be any wider than academy ratio? Because if it's academy ratio then it's the same ratio as TV, but academy ratio is also 35 mm.


sumi - Jan 28, 2005 6:00:07 am PST #8537 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

All the Bond films it looks like, Storefront Hitchcock, Stormy Monday.


Jessica - Jan 28, 2005 6:08:32 am PST #8538 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Aspect ratio isn't format-dependent -- you can shoot 1.33:1 35mm or 1.85:1 video. The vast majority of theatrically released films post-1950's are 1.85:1 or wider, regardless of the medium they were shot in. (I didn't see 24HPP, so for all I know, it was released in 1.33, but I doubt it. The DVD details on IMDB say 1.85.)


Tom Scola - Jan 28, 2005 6:11:19 am PST #8539 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

James Cameron sometimes shoots a movie at 1.33:1, and then crops it for the theatrical release, rather than for the video release.


JZ - Jan 28, 2005 6:11:35 am PST #8540 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

In going forth and Googling, I stumbled upon this discussion on DVD Talk Forum, the gist of which seems to be that the guy who brought the suit is an idiot who doesn't understand anything about filmmaking or editing and is just wrong in his understanding of widescreen formatting. But the whole discussion is very filmtechgeek heavy and I'm totally incompetent to judge whether the folks on that forum are right and settlement-guy is an idiot, or whether he in fact is right and they're all pompous and full of shit.

Any chance Jessica, Fiona or one of the other people who actually work in this industry could take a look at that forum and translate it into non-tech?


Frankenbuddha - Jan 28, 2005 6:15:47 am PST #8541 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Aspect ratio isn't format-dependent -- you can shoot 1.33:1 35mm or 1.85:1 video. The vast majority of theatrically released films post-1950's are 1.85:1 or wider, regardless of the medium they were shot in. (I didn't see 24HPP, so for all I know, it was released in 1.33, but I doubt it. The DVD details on IMDB say 1.85.)

I can never keep this stuff straight. I've read primers on this ("Aspect Ratios for Dummies" basically), and everytime I think I finally understand all the different permutations, something else comes along to confuse me and make my head hurt.


tommyrot - Jan 28, 2005 6:19:14 am PST #8542 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

the gist of which seems to be that the guy who brought the suit is an idiot who doesn't understand anything about filmmaking or editing and is just wrong in his understanding of widescreen formatting.

But if he was wrong, why did he win the court case (or make a settlement, if it was settled out of court)?

OK, I suppose he could be wrong and still get a settlement. Less likely, but it still happens.


Jessica - Jan 28, 2005 6:42:19 am PST #8543 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Any chance Jessica, Fiona or one of the other people who actually work in this industry could take a look at that forum and translate it into non-tech?

This post seems to be the clearest post on the matter.

Knowing this is all probably bullshit is a HUGE relief.


JZ - Jan 28, 2005 6:43:48 am PST #8544 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Thanks, Jess.

gives Bull Durham et al. little loving pats and puts them back on the DVD shelf