Only Pauly Shore can credibly claim to have been worse than John Wayne as Ghengis Khan.
I dunno. Zero Mostel once played Kublai Khan versus Desi Arnaz, Jr's Marco Polo. [link]
And Kaylee, what the hell's goin' on in the engine room? Were there monkeys? Some terrifying space monkeys maybe got loose?
Mal ,'The Train Job'
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DXMachina - Dec 11, 2004 6:14:47 am PST #7056 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
Mr. Broom - Dec 11, 2004 8:41:18 am PST #7057 of 10001
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor
I would think that any Mexican with a sense of ethnic pride would be more irritated by Antonio Banderas playing a Mexican, considering he's a born-and-raised Spaniard, and there's still no love lost between Spain and Mexico.
§ ita § - Dec 11, 2004 8:48:05 am PST #7058 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Once Upon A Time In Mexico is such a feverishly ethnic pride movie, though. I wonder what sort of box office it and Desperado did in Mexico.
Fiona - Dec 11, 2004 8:58:23 am PST #7059 of 10001
Apparently Gael Garcia Bernal does a creditable Spanish accent in the new Almodovar, Bad Education, so maybe it evens out.
Nutty - Dec 11, 2004 9:03:54 am PST #7060 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
I was going to say, much was made of Gael Garcia Bernal learning Spanish Spanish for that latest Almodóvar movie (he is Mexican). Because if he hadn't, it would have sounded silly to the audience in Spain.
(Banderas's accent in Spanish is pure southern Spain, and his English doesn't sound Mexican-accented at all.)
But I'm not sure as how Rodriguez is making movies for a Spanish-language audience of any nationality; the Spanish in his movies always seems incidental. Also, Rodriguez always seems cheerful about the hilarious lack of logic in his movies. In The Faculty, the invading aliens have conveniently read several classics of SF literature and obeyed their irrational assumptions.
Kathy A - Dec 11, 2004 11:51:55 am PST #7061 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil
One of the more interesting cases of racially-blind casting is the upcoming film Alatriste with Viggo Mortensen (Danish/generic American heritage) playing a 17th-century Spanish mercenary. Even if he does speak fluent Spanish, it's Argentinian dialect, not old-world Spanish.
§ ita § - Dec 11, 2004 5:59:49 pm PST #7062 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I'm not sure as how Rodriguez is making movies for a Spanish-language audience of any nationality
El Mariachi was made specifically for the Spanish-speaking market.
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tommyrot - Dec 11, 2004 7:47:57 pm PST #7063 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Huh. Lots of bats.
Why did Batman pick the bat as his theme, anyway? In the first Batman movie (not counting the '60s one) he says, "Because bats know how to survive." Um, OK. So do bears, squid, and giant turtles. Tell me there's a better explanation in the comics....
Ginger - Dec 11, 2004 7:57:16 pm PST #7064 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda
In the original 1940 Detective Comics, Bruce Wayne is pondering a disguise and is thinking, "Criminals are a superstitious cowardly lot, so my disguise must be able to strike terror into their hearts. I must be a creature of the night, black, terrible..." Then a bat flies in a window, and in a completely nonsuperstitious way, Bruce Wayne says, "It's an omen. I shall become a bat!"
tommyrot - Dec 11, 2004 8:11:32 pm PST #7065 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
OK, that actually makes sense.
Good thing it wasn't a pigeon that flew in the window....