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Jessica - Dec 10, 2004 11:37:55 am PST #7029 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Well I suppose it is a good thing that they chose to cast Michelle Yeoh and not, you know, Kate Bosworth, but yeah. Asian !=Japanese.


Sean K - Dec 10, 2004 11:40:20 am PST #7030 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Heh, I was reading the pasted paragraph and wondering why Michelle Yeoh would be a language problem, as her English is at least passable, but then I remembered there was the rest of the cast for her to try and communicate with....


§ ita § - Dec 10, 2004 11:44:16 am PST #7031 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think Michelle's English is more than passable -- she's fluent.


Burrell - Dec 10, 2004 11:50:49 am PST #7032 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Language problems on the set aside, I'm wondering what's the big difference between a Chinese actress playing a Japanese character and, say, a Spanish actress playing an Italian character?


Sean K - Dec 10, 2004 11:52:52 am PST #7033 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Or a Welsh actress playing an Hispanic character.

Signed,
Took me a while after Mask of Zorro to realize Catherine Zeta-Jones was not Hispanic, despite the complete lack of appropriate accent.


§ ita § - Dec 10, 2004 11:55:43 am PST #7034 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm wondering what's the big difference between a Chinese actress playing a Japanese character and, say, a Spanish actress playing an Italian character?

I think the difference might be huge if you're Italian or Japanese.

I don't think there's any more virtue to casting Zhang than there would be to casting, say, Lucy Liu. But I don't know which meaning of Asian they're using. It just seems they're pleased with themselves for reasons I can't determine.


Burrell - Dec 10, 2004 12:13:59 pm PST #7035 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I think the difference might be huge if you're Italian or Japanese.

Is it? I mean, aren't European actors sometimes cast as other nationalities in European films? I can't think of any specific examples, however, so they may not be, but I thought I'd seen it done.

Of course, there's always casting an Englishman to play Gandhi, but as I recall, there was some huffing over that one.

I don't think there's any more virtue to casting Zhang than there would be to casting, say, Lucy Liu.

Nor do I, but I also don't see the crime in casting Liu given that it is an American production. Should I?


Lyra Jane - Dec 10, 2004 12:19:00 pm PST #7036 of 10001
Up with the sun

there's always casting an Englishman to play Gandhi, but as I recall, there was some huffing over that one.

I thought Kingsley was half Indian.


Sean K - Dec 10, 2004 12:22:20 pm PST #7037 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I thought Kingsley was half Indian.

That's what his IMDb Bio says.


§ ita § - Dec 10, 2004 12:25:14 pm PST #7038 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I mean, aren't European actors sometimes cast as other nationalities in European films?

Probably. But when they cast Americans as Jamaicans (and I'm talking better accents than Kendra's) we get a little huffy -- we got good actors too, you know. (though Don Cheadle can be Bond -- don't get me wrong here)

I also don't see the crime in casting Liu given that it is an American production. Should I?

If it were a Japanese production, I still wouldn't think it a crime.

In the end, it is about the quality of what the cast produces. Which is precisely why I'm wondering why they're so proud of themselves. An American production of a book written by a gaijin -- and a pan-Asian cast is -- well, if they mean racially it's pragmatic. If they mean by nationality -- I think Japanese has some purist virtue, especially to the Japanese. Pan-Asian has little to none.

Movie could still suck.