For me, I guess the difference was that I really sympathized with Farrell's and Spacek's characters in the latter and could at least empathize somewhat with the others, whereas I just wanted to slap (or pistol whip) the idiocy out of all the characters in the former.
Mal: Which one you figure tracked us? Zoe: The ugly one, sir. Mal: Could you be more specific?
'Out Of Gas'
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Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 01, 2004 7:46:35 am PST #6471 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
beekaytee - Dec 01, 2004 8:11:17 am PST #6472 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant
Well there you have it!
If I'd had been at all articulate, my thoughts would have been Matt's.
Kate P. - Dec 01, 2004 8:14:06 am PST #6473 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love
I know it's a minority opinion round here, but I really love Y Tu Mama Tambien. It just works for me.
Polter-Cow - Dec 01, 2004 8:25:00 am PST #6474 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
I know it's a minority opinion round here, but I really love Y Tu Mama Tambien. It just works for me.
Wait, that's the minority opinion round here?
Woo, I'm in the majority!
Steph L. - Dec 01, 2004 8:32:46 am PST #6475 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Ah, good old Y Tu Mama Tambien, with the anvilly preachy voiceovers.
Honestly, a big part of why I didn't like the movie was that it had been hyped as this great deep, moving art film, when, basically, it was just Threesome set in Mexico.
Jessica - Dec 01, 2004 8:42:13 am PST #6476 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Honestly, a big part of why I didn't like the movie was that it had been hyped as this great deep, moving art film, when, basically, it was just Threesome set in Mexico.
I loathed the voiceovers. They seemed to be telling me that if I was paying attention to the plot of the movie, I was Missing The Big Picture. And if there's anything I dislike more than pointless narration, it's condescending pointless narration. Feh.
Scrappy - Dec 01, 2004 8:54:52 am PST #6477 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
Count me in on loving the movie. I liked the voiceovers and liked the class allegory AND the threesome part of it. Part of the reason I liked the voiceovers is that most films like to show you images and say whatever you are looking at is what we want you to think about. In this film the image said one thing and the VO said another and I liked the tension between the two.
YMexicanArtMovieMV
§ ita § - Dec 01, 2004 8:55:38 am PST #6478 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
This is weird:
Although Oliver Stone's 19-year-old son Sean has shot the behind-the-scenes documentary for Alexander and while the video package is likely to include an examination of the actual life of the Greek conqueror and other informative material, Stone himself has indicated that he is not at all enthusiastic about the coming of age of DVDs. Video Store magazine quotes him as saying during a recent press event, "It's the end of movie-movies the way we know them. ... If you walk into a room with 5,000 DVDs, how are you going to respect movies? How do you know the good ones?," Stone asked. "It's going to the LCD -- the lowest common denominator. It's making movies into supermarket-shelf items, which is probably the best you can get at Wal-Mart. ... It's hopeless."
Have DVDs resulted in there being more movies? More movies available? Isn't it the director's job to instill respect?
Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 01, 2004 8:59:17 am PST #6479 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Has he never walked into a Wal-Mart or video store and seen racks and racks of VHS tapes?
Calli - Dec 01, 2004 9:02:04 am PST #6480 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
Poor Oliver Stone. He can only produce one pile of steaming crap movie every year or so, and DVDs show people how many other movies there are out there. Good movies. Movies that OS had nothing to do with. But I repeat myself.