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I was watching it as a costume musical made in 2001, that happened to use 1899 as a setting.
That's how I wanked the songs. MR wasn't supposed to be a slice of life. (My big problem with the movie was Nicole Kidman -- she never made the character convincing.)
As to the Spacey news, I'll wait and see how he does in the movie. There are things the world has less use for than the next Bobby Darin.
The thing is, the current Greeks are Slavs, not Hellenes. They aren't actually descended from the Classical Greeks.
Hey, cool, I didn't know that.
I do love the "Roxanne" scene in MR.
Did we all know that Bad Education got slapped with an NC-17 rating for graphic gay sex scenes?
Did we all know that Bad Education got slapped with an NC-17 rating for graphic gay sex scenes?
Huh. I just read a review of BE in the New Yorker. Is graphic gay sex more worthy of an NC-17 than graphic straight sex? (Not asking if it should be, I'm just wondering if it is rated that way.)
Yeah, I'm not sure. The article I linked to seemed to say that the official reason was "explicit sexual content," and I don't know if the fact that it's between two men had anything to do with it. I mentioned the gay part because I figured there might--possibly--be a few people around these parts who would find that exciting...
Nonian, I don't have any links or such to back it up, but my impression is that "gay" automatically takes a movie to PG-13 territory.
I'm just sitting here, nodding my head like a loon at the majority of the Moulin Rouge posts. It took a couple of viewings before I fell in love with more than just EWEN (squeeeee!!!!). I have a CD that is a mix of the two soundtracks, the only song I dropped was Like a Virgin cause it just bugs beyond reason.
I have not seen Alexander yet, but one of K-Bug's friends did. Her review - "it is one big movie about a guy coming out of the closet".
but my impression is that "gay" automatically takes a movie to PG-13 territory.
I just asked because, while I have nothing to back it up, I wouldn't be surprised if "gay" raised it up a notch. OTOH, the linked article said Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down got a X and that was straight sex, but since I haven't seen Bad Education I really can't compare.
ION, I'm now listening to the Moulin Rouge soundtrack. After all the talk, i was in the mood to hear the music again.
All I have to say about Alexander is that it needed less narration and WAY more Colin Farrel making out with Jared Leto. (And by "way more," I mean "any." There are at least twelve million scenes in the film where they schmoopily gaze into each other's eyes and profess their undying love, lean in towards each other, and....hug. There is not a single Farrel/Leto kiss in the whole. damn. movie. Rosario Dawson gets a big loud sex scene, and Jared Leto doesn't even get to kiss anybody. What is this, Mr Stone, some kind of sick joke???)
In spite of the almost total lack of big gay sex, I did enjoy it, in a splashy, messy, over the top, Oliver Stone kind of way. The framed narration was clearly added way late in the game, and needed to DIEDIEDIE, and there's a point in the middle of the film where it flashes back 8 years for no particular reason (well, there is a reason, but it's taken care of in the first few seconds of the flashback, which them goes on another ten minutes in a completely unrelated direction), and after that, the movie kind of completely falls apart. But the first hour is very entertaining, and the battle sequences are stunning.
Jessica is me WRT Alexander. There was not nearly enough Colin Farrell kissing anyone, particularly the supposed "love of his life".
There are at least twelve million scenes in the film where they schmoopily gaze into each other's eyes and profess their undying love, lean in towards each other, and....hug.
This made me laugh so hard (in the movie). Apparently, Greek sex involves hugging as the height of passion.
La Bohème is NOT based on Camille.
La Boh is about a bunch of poor artists struggling to survive. The lady who eventually dies of TB is Mimi, a seamstress. The subplot is about Musetta, who sells herself for money but loves one of the poor artists.
La Dame Aux Caméllias a.k.a. La Traviata is about a wealthy and successful courtesan who is dying of TB. She falls in love with the successful bourgeois Alfred; when Alfred's father visits her and threatens to disown him, Camille leaves her lover and returns to her life of pleasure. She dies of TB in Alfred's arms.
The major things the two have in common are sex and TB. Oh, and arias.