Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned
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I love The Incredibles so so much and I want to watch it again a MILLION times.
I can already tell it's going to be one of those movies where the crypoints are going to bleed into the surrounding scenes until I'm quietly tearing up throughout the entire film. It's going to be Lilo & Stitch all over again. (There was actually a point towards the end where I realized
that the giant machine they fight basically IS a mechanical Stitch, the way it tucks in its arms and rolls around destroying stuff.)
Pierce Brosnan wants Colin Farrell.
Edna was a dead-on portrait (at least physically) of the legendary Hollywood costume designer Edith Head.
That was very intentional.
I LOVED the cape montage. SO HILARIOUS!
(There was actually a point towards the end where I realized
OMG!!!! IT IS!!!!!!!!
I've often said that
I don't want any more film adaptations of Alan Moore comics, because they always seem to go very, very badly. And within 5 minutes of The Incredibles, I was jumping up and down in my seat, elbowing Ethan and whispering "IT'S WATCHMEN!!!!!!"
How much do I love Pixar? THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS much!
Heh. I thought when I saw the
mechanical Robodoom, "God, they must be pissed off that
Sky captain
came out first!
Okay, I am now kind of spoiled for The Incredibles. There is no way for my weak will to resist white font about it in two different threads, over several days.
I am not made of steel, people.
Like, uh... that guy Skip. On that Minear show. Angel. He was all, like, metallic and stuff. Right?
I really, really, enjoyed The Incredibles, as much as anyone on the board, but after I saw it, I read this review, and now I'm having second thouights about it. Especially
Villains aren't simply villains. They're terrorists. "They'll kill you if they can," Elastigirl warns her children. You can't miss the post-9/11 desperation in her voice. Or the elitism embodied by the "supers."
and other reviews comparing it to The Fountainhead. I'm very confused. Is it elitist?
What nonsense.
The movie can certainly be read as allegorical. I'm sure Randians have a field day with it. But
Elastigirl KNOWS the bad guys will kill her kids, because they just tried to. She said "There are children here", and they fired anyway. It's not a global statement, it's a specific one.
I suppose anytime you deal with Superman you have echoes of Übermensch. But there's no suggestion that the Incredibles are morally superior to anybody else; just physically.
I'm with Betsy in not detecting that vibe, FWiW.
Maybe I need to see the movie two or three more times.
The Incredibles,
as expected, was great. I loved how it explored superhero territory I'd never seen so much before:
the jealousy of those with powers.
It also explored territory I
had
seen so much before: the first fifteen minutes were totally
like an animated version of Powers.
And it was so entertaining I didn't even realize it was throwing me that blasted
Overworked Father Neglects His Family
trope. But the thing about Pixar is they manage to deliver cheesy messages really well, by making the Message Dialogue organic and not so anvilicious.
As I saw
Shrek 2
recently, my thoughts during the movie were, "Look! An animated movie that is humorous by virtue of the actions and characterizations of its characters, rather than shotgunning pop-culture references!" Though there were some great subversions of standard superhero tropes, as expected. Loved the uses of powers.
I do feel like having some more whitefonted discussion, but it will have to wait till later.