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Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned  

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Scrappy - Nov 05, 2004 1:43:20 pm PST #5443 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Do I really have to be fucked over that hard to get empowered?

I agree with your caveats to the other films, but with What's Love I think it's that you CAN be fucked over that hard and get empowered. It makes her journey all the more amazing. I mean, I like An Unmarried Woman (for example0 but the achievement of self-realization when you are gorgeous, well-educated, Live in a stunning, huge apartment and and don't have to work is not nearly as impressive.


§ ita § - Nov 05, 2004 2:08:39 pm PST #5444 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

with What's Love I think it's that you CAN be fucked over that hard and get empowered

I actually think that Thelma and Louise were empowered too. I'm not knocking her story, but it would be the same eyebrow raise I'd give a black film festival I though skewed too hard to the "white man done hit us AGIN" side of the story.

Without downplaying the Sojourner Truths, I think it's too victimy. And for the movies I've seen on that list? I don't get a good haze of Girl Power.


Aims - Nov 05, 2004 2:10:06 pm PST #5445 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I don't get a good haze of Girl Power.

Spice Girls not on the list?


Betsy HP - Nov 05, 2004 2:10:14 pm PST #5446 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I quite liked the first Charlie's Angels movie, actually.


Aims - Nov 05, 2004 2:14:40 pm PST #5447 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

So did I and the second one is cheesy fun.


§ ita § - Nov 05, 2004 2:18:31 pm PST #5448 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I thought the first one good cheesy fun, but was disappointed. Hated the second, because they seemed to have only remembered the stuff from the first one I hated.

In fact, I think I liked Spiceworld better.

I've reread the quote " who we are, where we've been, what we can take, and better yet, what we can dish out" and yeah, I guess I'm complaining about the "what we can take" portion of the evening. Eh. It's their list. I just don't get the glow of sisterhood off of it, because I don't care to celebrate that much of what I can take (and, honestly, what I can dish out -- but Girlfight stays).


Betsy HP - Nov 05, 2004 2:20:24 pm PST #5449 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I've never seen Steel Magnolias. Do I still count as a girl?


Aims - Nov 05, 2004 2:20:30 pm PST #5450 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Girlfight

Another one I have to NetFlix. I have only seen about theees much of it.


Aims - Nov 05, 2004 2:21:18 pm PST #5451 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Do I still count as a girl?

Absolutely not. You won't get your girl card back until you can tell what 2 colors are Shelby's wedding colors.

t so totally kidding


DCJensen - Nov 05, 2004 2:29:19 pm PST #5452 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Thing is, the chick flicks moniker was basically coined as a derogatory description of films which "women loved" but "real men" were not supposed to have any interest in.

That list? Not really in the groove on that definition, either.