And almost sixty-five percent of that was actual compliment. Is that a personal best?

Xander ,'End of Days'


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§ ita § - Oct 31, 2004 7:34:39 am PST #5339 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Reggae bondage scene

Less Reggae might have helped. Seeing her, of all annoying women, in rasta paraphernalia added to her magical effect.


DavidS - Oct 31, 2004 7:45:33 am PST #5340 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Seeing her, of all annoying women, in rasta paraphernalia added to her magical effect.

Kind of a Magical Caucasian? With the power to alienate?


§ ita § - Oct 31, 2004 7:48:48 am PST #5341 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Nah, she's already so settled in the free-spirited freeing yet troubled chick cliché. They often take on snippets from other cultures to help show exactly how untrammeled they are by The Man and his expectations.


DavidS - Oct 31, 2004 7:50:56 am PST #5342 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

They often take on snippets from other cultures to help show exactly how untrammeled they are by The Man and his expectations.

That's SOP for any bohemian though. At least she didn't have dreadlocks.


§ ita § - Oct 31, 2004 7:53:24 am PST #5343 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's SOP for any bohemian though.

Absolutely. This cliche is most often filled by a bohemian woman.


Scrappy - Oct 31, 2004 8:02:59 am PST #5344 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

But that's exactly what i like about WaH--you think it's the free-spirit cliche and then it turns out to be about something else.


§ ita § - Oct 31, 2004 8:08:25 am PST #5345 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I understand the movie shifts genres once or maybe even twice, but does the character shift too? And I don't mean in the "redeemed by love" or "redeemed because we understand why she's so 'free'" way.

I don't know. I can't remember the last movie I liked with a chick like that in lead. I was gratified that in Force Of Nature that he went back to his fiancée, but I didn't like the movie. It was just easier to sit through -- if it had been Melanie, I'd not have made it.


DavidS - Oct 31, 2004 8:18:47 am PST #5346 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Scrappy's right, Melanie's character isn't a free spirit who redeems uptight guy. It's revealed that they're not opposites but, in fact, both pretty similar. Prone to lying and putting on false personae to deal with a painful past. They're more like people who get together in AA.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 31, 2004 8:47:09 am PST #5347 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Liota bringing the crazy later is nice, but I'd say just leave the thing half-watched. Your quality of life won't be reduced by missing the end.

Last night I watched Bravo's 100 Scariest Movie Moments (Which was really more scariest movies, as they seemed to rank by whole films rather than specific scenes). #4 was Psycho and #3 was The Exorcist, whereas second and first place were taken by Alien and Jaws, respectively.

Does that seem right to you?


Ginger - Oct 31, 2004 9:01:05 am PST #5348 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I was watching Bravo's 100 Scariest Movie Moments this afternoon. Lance Henriksen was commenting on Near Dark, and I just have to say that Lance Henriksen with a good-sized gold earring just seems very wrong to me. And I'd forgotten that Terry O'Quinn (now of Lost) was The Stepfather.