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Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned  

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Ginger - Oct 30, 2004 10:31:25 am PDT #5319 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I think I need to go bash my brains out now.

It only has that effect on people who actually have brains.


§ ita § - Oct 30, 2004 1:22:14 pm PDT #5320 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The writer of Frailty just called me a liar!

Okay, I don't think I got all the twists -- I missed Fenton is a demon. But I got all of the rest, simply by watching the movie as if everyone was telling the truth, and seeing what felt most interesting.

I don't count it against the movie -- in fact, I really liked that.

Still, he's a meanie.


Sean K - Oct 30, 2004 1:26:55 pm PDT #5321 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I think the only scarier "reality" of the movie than that they (son and dad) were just psychotic was finding out that the son was telling the truth.


§ ita § - Oct 30, 2004 1:37:20 pm PDT #5322 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I had it in a couple layers -- what if the victims were guilty. But then, what if the dad was really getting visions? And what if Adam was really seeing them too? And, dude, if they were from God, for true?

Not to mention the creepiness of the wrong brother sitting there, and it wasn't going to be just a narrated tale, but that the peril was continuing. And since they seemed to have been clear that he was the only surviving member of the family, how does he become a threat?


Sean K - Oct 30, 2004 1:43:12 pm PDT #5323 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

And such a great ending. It all worked for me, too.


tommyrot - Oct 30, 2004 2:59:19 pm PDT #5324 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Anyone seen They? (It's on in few minutes.)

It stars Marc Blucas.


Nutty - Oct 30, 2004 4:56:45 pm PDT #5325 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Now see, I could respect the thought and effort that went into Frailty -- one of the few movies I've seen that showed, e.g., how frightening it is to be delusional (even if that does turn out not to be the case, it allowed the dad not to be a villain from the get-go). But I still got to the end and thought to myself, "Self, you know how much you hate it when the cool people get away with shitty behavior just because they're cool? That goes double when the cool person is God."

I thought it sort of undercut itself, by casting a young Fenton who was so convincing, and then throwing him away as an adult. I guess the movie didn't persuade me that his adult outcome would actually happen, and by setting up that adult outcome, the movie invalidated all of that painful thinking and hard work that had gone into his youthful outcome.

Not to spoil things too terribly.

So, I guess, a well-made film, based on a script I hated. If such a thing is possible.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 30, 2004 7:38:32 pm PDT #5326 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I saw part of They, but it failed to catch my interest sufficiently to watch til the end.


§ ita § - Oct 31, 2004 5:25:04 am PST #5327 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Can anyone recommend Something Wild to me, the one with Jeff Daniels? Netflix should have an annotation function, because I need to make notes on why I rent certain movies. This one must be because of something random I read on the internet. It doesn't have any of my favourite stars, and it features a free-spirit woman (with awful jewelry) liberating a stuffy man. Later on it will no doubt go to hell in a handbasket and everyone learn valuable life lessons (or maybe die -- that would be cool).

But for right now, I'm wondering if I should just send it back with all but 10 minutes unwatched. Melanie Griffiths, for christ's sake. What was I thinking?


Scrappy - Oct 31, 2004 5:29:15 am PST #5328 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Well, It's Jonathan Demme. Ray Liotta is terrific in it, and it has a great soundtrack. I think it's an odd, fun staisfying little movie, but if oyu ain't liking it, no need to keep watching.