Jayne: What're you gonna tell the others? Mal: About what? Jayne: About why I'm dead. Mal: Hadn't thought about it. Jayne: Make something up. Don't tell 'em what I did.

'Ariel'


Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned  

A place to talk about movies--Old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


Jessica - Oct 26, 2004 9:34:14 am PDT #5093 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Signed, Not Seeing The Movie For Reasons Of Discomfort But Doesn't Think That Makes It A Bad Movie.

Leaning towards that myself. Will probably end up seeing it anyway.

But it is his understanding that The Grudge was shot so fairly indentically to the original, that I guess he felt comfortable enough to make a judgement call.

Dude, if that were all it took, Gus Van Sant's Psycho should have been a masterpiece.


Hayden - Oct 26, 2004 9:37:01 am PDT #5094 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Must. Own. This. MUST, I tell you!

Jilli, you'd freakin' love it (if you don't already).

As far as owning it, get it sent overnight from Facets: [link]

Here's Facets' review:

Guy Maddin (Tales from the Gimli Hospital) brings his unique vision to Bram Stoker's archetypal novel and creates one of the finest cinematic adaptations of the classic vampire tale to date. An ode to silent cinema shot entirely in black and white with injections of red, the film successfully transposes the Royal Winnipeg Ballet's interpretation of Dracula from stage to screen without losing a drop of the dance's eroticism, subtle humor and lush, stylized movement. "Victorian sexuality and melodrama are brought together in a shadow world of expressionistic images and an athletic, almost rabid, choreography" (Bruce Diones, The New Yorker).

And here's a review from High Hat contributor and all around cineaste George Wu: [link]


Thomash - Oct 26, 2004 9:48:34 am PDT #5095 of 10001
I have a plan.

Dude, if that were all it took, Gus Van Sant's Psycho should have been a masterpiece.

I think you're confusing quality/style with construction in that. And Hitchcock didn't direct the remake of Psyco, Takashi Shimizu did direct the American version of Ju-on.


Jessica - Oct 26, 2004 9:51:31 am PDT #5096 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think you're confusing quality/style with construction in that.

I think I misunderstood your point. I've read in several places that The Grudge is essentially a shot-for-shot remake of Ju-On, and I thought that was what you were commenting on.


Thomash - Oct 26, 2004 10:03:35 am PDT #5097 of 10001
I have a plan.

I've read in several places that The Grudge is essentially a shot-for-shot remake of Ju-On

That's my understanding too. And that is sort of the point I was trying to make about Sean's comment, about The Grudge jumping around and critics having to follow it and think. Even though it was the same director making the movie, Eastern and Western styles of filmmaking are very different. And those influences might not have been taken into account, as far as quality of creepiness goes. That also has a lot to do with the performers as well as the director. I imagine people would be thinking less of The Grudge if it was done by a different director.

But that's neither here nor there, I'm just happy to be having a nice conversation on the board. It happens so rarely.


Sue - Oct 26, 2004 10:04:47 am PDT #5098 of 10001
hip deep in pie

Guy Maddin (Tales from the Gimli Hospital) brings his unique vision to Bram Stoker's archetypal novel and creates one of the finest cinematic adaptations of the classic vampire tale to date. An ode to silent cinema shot entirely in black and white with injections of red, the film successfully transposes the Royal Winnipeg Ballet's interpretation of Dracula from stage to screen without losing a drop of the dance's eroticism, subtle humor and lush, stylized movement. "Victorian sexuality and melodrama are brought together in a shadow world of expressionistic images and an athletic, almost rabid, choreography" (Bruce Diones, The New Yorker).

Oh, that.

That's been on TV here a kabillion times.


Kalshane - Oct 26, 2004 10:05:41 am PDT #5099 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

This is me, as well. Things that get under your skin insidiously. I don't particularly like being startled and I dislike gore, but I love being spooked, the kind of spooked that makes me remember that particular moment in the film days, weeks afterward and do a full-body shudder.

I'm the exact opposite. I'd rather be startled, let out a girly scream manly bellow and then be fine once the adrenaline rush goes away than spend a long period of time with a feeling of dread, staring at every shadow and odd noise.

Though if given a choice, I'd rather not be frightened at all.


Hayden - Oct 26, 2004 10:06:32 am PDT #5100 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

That's been on TV here a kabillion times.

Really? They don't put no girly-girly shit like ballet on TV here in Texas. Nope, we get Bass Masters instead.


Sue - Oct 26, 2004 10:08:00 am PDT #5101 of 10001
hip deep in pie

Really? They don't put no girly-girly shit like ballet on TV here in Texas.

That's because you don't have the CBC, sometimes referred to as the Communist Broadcasting Corporation. Damn arty liberals!


Hayden - Oct 26, 2004 10:10:16 am PDT #5102 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Did someone say Comminists? (off to get 2nd Amendment-protected assault rifle)