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Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned  

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§ ita § - Oct 19, 2004 7:25:07 am PDT #4769 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I (as noted above) enjoyed Van Helsing. Jackman and David Wenham were great -- but I thought they needed to go deeper into homage/satire. Too many people expected straight up were-horror, and weren't sufficiently dissuaded that was the nature of the product.

Still, very amusing.

I walked out on Shanghai Knights, so I can't rate it. Same with Bram Stoker's Dracula.

I completely don't remember what happened in Hardware -- I think we made a pact of amnesia once it was done.

Oh! Freejack and Millennium were also horrible.


Gandalfe - Oct 19, 2004 7:25:12 am PDT #4770 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

I'd also add Showgirls, but that falls in the "So bad it's hysterical" category.

Do you know they released a Showgirls Special Edition? Boggles the mind . . . .


Lilty Cash - Oct 19, 2004 7:26:34 am PDT #4771 of 10001
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

Do you know they released a Showgirls Special Edition? Boggles the mind . . . .

I think it comes with pasties, too.


§ ita § - Oct 19, 2004 7:27:05 am PDT #4772 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Mmm. Good eating.


Jim - Oct 19, 2004 7:27:43 am PDT #4773 of 10001
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

I completely don't remember what happened in Hardware -- I think we made a pact of amnesia once it was done

Have you ever seen the Terminator through a pair of red-tinted sunglasses while listening to lame '80s goth rock? That's what happened in Hardware


Gandalfe - Oct 19, 2004 7:27:55 am PDT #4774 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

I cannot believe that the woman who last night tortured me, this morning, gets pasties.


Polter-Cow - Oct 19, 2004 7:31:50 am PDT #4775 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Oh! Freejack and Millennium were also horrible.

I saw Freejack back in the day. Ah, Emilio Estevez.

And Lilty, I quite liked JP2. Absolutely no relation to the book whatsoever (they kept one scene. ONE SCENE.), but it was a fun time. There were dinosaurs.


Sean K - Oct 19, 2004 7:32:44 am PDT #4776 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Oh! Freejack

Kinda liked Freejack, too.


Sean K - Oct 19, 2004 7:35:04 am PDT #4777 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

And Lilty, I quite liked JP2.

Oh, P-C......

t shakes head

Let me ask you this sunshine. How did the T-Rex eat all the people on the boat? You know, the people in the tiny rooms with the tiny doors? And then get back into the hold and get trapped in there?


Nutty - Oct 19, 2004 7:35:47 am PDT #4778 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Heh, Gandalfe.

sometimes structural problems are not as readily visible in the script as they are in the finished product.

This means, I think, that the problem is still the script's fault. Like how, in baseball (not that I am obsessed or anything), if the starter allows a double, and then gets relieved, and then the guy on 2nd makes it home on someone else's watch? That run is scored against the pitcher who let him on base in the first place, not against the pitcher who let him score.

I agree that a movie can be altered in the editing room -- the difference between FOTR and its EE are the proof -- but an editor (and the people who decide on voiceovers, and the post-production wizards) can only do so much with the footage they get.