I'm so evil and... skanky. And I think I'm kinda gay.

Willow ,'Storyteller'


Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned  

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Alibelle - Sep 29, 2004 11:09:08 am PDT #4269 of 10001
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

Ok. "Mean Girls" was great, very funny the whole way through.

"Ella Enchanted" was absolutely adorable, and there were some really great performances. Poor Parminder Nagra was woefully underused, Cary Elwes was great, and Anne Hathaway practically glowed. Hugh Dancy was all adorable and dumb, like a cute puppy. It was very fun, and I'm glad I saw it.

I could have liked PD2 at least as well as the first one were it not for the little kid from the Cosby Show joining Julie Andrews for a song. That whole scene rubbed me the wrong way. Otherwise, still good.

That was, by far, the worst scene in the movie, I agree. I just told myself that at least the song was written in such a way that Julie Andrews could sing, at least a bit of it, and that she has certainly never had a problem singing with obnoxious children throughout her illustrious career, so I will try and not let it bother me.

I'm with Strega about seeing movies before reading the book. I am not with P-C, even if he does agree as well.

Also? I was going to try and restrain myself from saying that I thought the Lord of the Rings books were bad books made into pretty but also bad movies, but then I decided there's no reason to suppress it. I also didn't like "Master and Commander," or "Grapes of Wrath," (and Grapes of Wrath was as torturous to read as Achebe's Things Fall Apart), the book To Kill a Mockingbird, and though I thought the movie version was better, I still didn't love it.

And I just got finished saying I liked "Princess Diaries 2" and "Ella Enchanted," so I'm sure there will be judging. But I don't care. So there. Pfft.


Polter-Cow - Sep 29, 2004 11:38:28 am PDT #4270 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Poor Parminder Nagra was woefully underused, Cary Elwes was great, and Anne Hathaway practically glowed.

Whoa, all three of them are in it. I think I have to see this sometime.

I'm with Strega about seeing movies before reading the book. I am not with P-C, even if he does agree as well.

Well, you know what they say: Hermanos! The devil has built a robot!


Polter-Cow - Sep 29, 2004 11:55:17 am PDT #4271 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

How different is The Producers musical from the original movie? Why is Mel Brooks making a movie out of the musical? This is ridiculous.


tommyrot - Sep 29, 2004 11:57:19 am PDT #4272 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I like the original movie a lot, but I found the musical to be better still - in fact it was the funniest thing I've ever seen in my life. There is a bunch of stuff added and changed from the original movie, so I can see him making a movie of the musical.


Mr. Broom - Sep 29, 2004 11:58:05 am PDT #4273 of 10001
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

I want to see a miniseries adaptation of Pullman's "His Dark Materials."
New Line has been talking about making His Dark Materials into 3 movies for a while now. Don't know if it will actually occur; the story is complex and difficult, and that's before you get to the controversy of the topic.
Chris Weitz, director. Tom Stoppard, screenplay. 2005. Wet 'em if you got 'em.

eta: P-C, Brooks wants to re-make the producers because he sees a new audience for it and he likes the acting of the Broadway cast (i.e. Nathan Lane) so much. Someone did an interview with him about it and Spaceballs II.


Anne W. - Sep 29, 2004 12:01:37 pm PDT #4274 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Tom Stoppard, screenplay.

Huh. Stoppard's involvement in the project might get me to see at least the first movie despite the fact that I disliked the books (liked the first well enough with reservations, heartily disliked the second for a number of reasons, have yet to try reading the third.)


Nutty - Sep 29, 2004 12:14:14 pm PDT #4275 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I don't know -- 2005 (data not updated since 10/2003) does not sound like a movie in the hand, you know? Sounds like a movie-idea. When the thing is cast and filming, I will believe it is actually going to happen.

Well, at least we know New Line has the technology to create believeable CGI protagonists. Considering that the Panserbjorne, all of the daemons, the cliff-ghasts, the ghosts in Cittagazze, the harpies in the underworld, and the Mulefa wheelie-people will have to be CGI. This is not counting the tiny people, dead souls, and angels who can be done with makeup, filters, and normal filming tricks.

That's a lot of post-production to schedule! (Even if just for the ones that show up in the first book.)

I am sorry I did not see the 2nd half of the National Theatre version of HDM, because I did not see whether they dealt with the wheelie-people at all. They used lovely silk-panel puppets for the daemons and cliff-ghasts, and costumes and hand-held masks for the panserbjorne, but it would be really hard to make a bicycle exude the right kind of "this is a sapient consciousness" feeling. Maybe they rewrote that whole section to be something less physically ambitious.


Kathy A - Sep 29, 2004 1:18:43 pm PDT #4276 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I agree with Beverly--The Last Starfighter is nothing without Robert Preston.

"You're walking away from history--history, Alex! Did Chris Columbus stay home? Nooo. What if the Wright Brothers thought that only birds should fly? And did Galoka think that the Ulus were too ugly to save?"

Love that movie. ("Terrific. I'm about to get killed a million miles from nowhere, and a gung-ho iguana is telling me to relax!")


Hil R. - Sep 29, 2004 2:46:09 pm PDT #4277 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Then if/when they read, say, LOTR, they'll be seeing Viggo Mortensen and Orlando Bloom instead of Aragorn and Legolas. They've had their imaginations hijacked, essentially. It makes me sad because I can read the books and still see the images I conjured when I was eight, ten years old.

I saw the movies first, then read the books. (Well, some of them. I got bogged down about 3/4 of the way through reading The Two Towers a few months ago, and kind of lost interest.) For the most part, the world I'm seeing when I read the books is not the same as the world in the movies. There are a few exceptions -- Gollum being the major one -- but mostly, all the characters and places look different.

I liked the book of Gone with the Wind better than the movie.


Kathy A - Sep 29, 2004 3:27:34 pm PDT #4278 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

The second half of Two Towers (the book) didn't really interest me until I was somewhere in my 20s--that's when the whole Frodo/Sam storyline really started to resonate with me. Before then, my favorite part of the whole trilogy was the first half of TTT; I loved the Ents and the whole royal intrigue at Edoras (I was also a complete Eomer fangirl at the age of 15, whereas Aragorn was a real bore, IMO).

The best book-to-movie adaptations usually take the framework of the book for the plot, but concentrate on the more cinematic aspects instead (The Black Stallion comes to mind--love that book, but the best parts of it are barely in the movie, which I loved for a completely different reason).