Walking I get. But power walking? Why not just run for a shorter time?

Angel ,'Time Bomb'


Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned  

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Nutty - Sep 29, 2004 6:56:56 am PDT #4221 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I do have a pet theory that it's easier to make a good movie from a bad book. The Taking of Pelham One Two Three and The Manchurian Candidate (1963) being prime examples. For one thing, they're bad novels, so the screenwriters can chuck large elements of the source in favor of something better.

Then again, overall, I think it's a crapshoot and a matter of the right kind of people meeting the right kind of project. There have certainly been plenty of lifeless, annoying adaptations of good books, but there are also plenty of lifeless, annoying adaptations of bad books.

I mean, Broadway has got an Andrew Lloyd Webber musical based on The Woman in White. We are truly a culture of pathetic recycling.


JohnSweden - Sep 29, 2004 6:57:47 am PDT #4222 of 10001
I can't even.

Blade Runner, although the original is a short story and very different.

Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep is a novel, and different, sure, but plenty of elements translate across.

As for the title:

The title comes from Alan E. Nourse, who wrote a story called "The Bladerunner". William S. Burroughs took the book and wrote "Bladerunner (A Movie)" in 1979. Rights to the title only ("in perpetuity") were sold to Ridley Scott. Similarities between Nourse's "The Bladerunner" and Scott's BR are in name only. Nourse's title refers to people who deliver medical instruments to outlaw doctors who can't obtain them legally. [Source: Locus, September 1992: p. 76.] Scott thought the title made a good codename for Deckard.


§ ita § - Sep 29, 2004 6:58:15 am PDT #4223 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

We are truly a culture of pathetic recycling.

Have we ever not been? How many King Arthurs or Brer Rabbit/Anansis are out there?


Anne W. - Sep 29, 2004 6:58:19 am PDT #4224 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

To Kill a Mockingbird is probably the best example in the world of great book--->great movie, Ginger.

Princess Bride was a wonderful adaptation of book to movie, especially in how they replaced the author's snarky commentary with the framing device of Peter Falk reading to his grandson. (Favorite Falk line? "Yes. You're very smart. Now shut up (or is it "be quiet?".")


Dana - Sep 29, 2004 7:00:03 am PDT #4225 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Be quiet.

I just wrote a paper about The Princess Bride, among other things.


Anne W. - Sep 29, 2004 7:00:57 am PDT #4226 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Thanks, Dana!


Fred Pete - Sep 29, 2004 7:01:32 am PDT #4227 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

You almost have to chuck elements from the book to make the movie. A book has too much in it. And cinematography can make up only so much of the descriptive passages.


Dana - Sep 29, 2004 7:02:16 am PDT #4228 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

We watched the movie in class. There were three or four of us who nearly had to put our hands over our mouths so we wouldn't recite the dialogue.

"Who are you?"

"No one of consequence."

"I must know!"

"Get used to disappointment."


Nutty - Sep 29, 2004 7:03:13 am PDT #4229 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Have we ever not been?

Probably not. But ANDREW LLOYD WEBBER.

I've seen a number of period costume dramas that are quite good movies. Many of them largely unfaithful to their source books, but good movies. The Wings of the Dove, Sense and Sensibility (that one was mostly faithful), like that.


Anne W. - Sep 29, 2004 7:04:30 am PDT #4230 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

A book has too much in it.

Plus, there's the challenge of taking things like internal monologues (for example) that are important to the plot and character, and finding a way to get that element across on screen. There are things one can do in a book that are impossible to do on film and vice-versa.