Saffron: But we've been wed. Aren't we to become one flesh? Mal: Well, no, uh... We're still two fleshes here, and I think that your flesh ought to sleep somewhere else.

'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


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bon bon - Jul 13, 2004 9:20:21 am PDT #416 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I saw a movie a few months ago which had a flashback sequence to the 80s, and a hilarious visual gag with one character using what must have been a 15 lb. "cutting edge" mobile phone.

X-Files did this too, to a good effect.


Sean K - Jul 13, 2004 9:22:11 am PDT #417 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

On the other hand, Star Trek: TOS, with its cheesy sets that never looked convincing, and its velour outfits with bellbottoms, manages to get a number of things right, not the least of which being small devices with flipping lids that you can use to speak to someone who is very far away from you....

t takes out flippy cell phone and wishes it made a little chirpy sound when he flipped it open


Lilty Cash - Jul 13, 2004 9:22:50 am PDT #418 of 10001
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

The 2015 that Old Biff returns to is a timeline in which Marty was sent overseas to boarding school and Doc Brown was put in an asylum (and likely didn't even invent the time-machine...causing a paradox).

That's it!!


§ ita § - Jul 13, 2004 9:22:55 am PDT #419 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yes, the fashions were just as bad in the 80's as the 70's, folks, just a different style of bad.

The 90s will be that bad too, in a second or so. It's like a time lag -- the clothes of X years ago look eminently mockable. More than X is retro, and less than X is familiar but unstylish.

Or so I was told.

I think there's some instant nostalgia that's happening these days that's mucking with the value of X. But for a while it was pretty constant.


Thomash - Jul 13, 2004 9:23:13 am PDT #420 of 10001
I have a plan.

The 2015 that Old Biff returns to is a timeline in which Marty was sent overseas to boarding school and Doc Brown was put in an asylum (and likely didn't even invent the time-machine...causing a paradox).

Ah, but you do notice in the movies a certain lag between the causal event and the subsequent change. I don't remember how soon after (old) Biff got back to his present that Doc and Marty left, but could it be seen that the "chronal" changes didn't catch up to the future by the time they had left for the past (85)?


Jessica - Jul 13, 2004 9:24:38 am PDT #421 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

takes out flippy cell phone and wishes it made a little chirpy sound when he flipped it open

I would be very surprised if there weren't a way to make your cell phone make the little chirpy noise.


Betsy HP - Jul 13, 2004 9:24:56 am PDT #422 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I think X used to be 20 years, ita. The '70s were all about the '50s revival, for instance.


Miracleman - Jul 13, 2004 9:25:53 am PDT #423 of 10001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

On the other hand, Star Trek: TOS, with its cheesy sets that never looked convincing, and its velour outfits with bellbottoms, manages to get a number of things right, not the least of which being small devices with flipping lids that you can use to speak to someone who is very far away from you....

Also, they had tiny little plastic disks they put in their computers that looked a hell of a lot like 3.5 inch floppies.

Ah, but you do notice in the movies a certain lag between the causal event and the subsequent change. I don't remember how soon after (old) Biff got back to his present that Doc and Marty left, but could it be seen that the "chronal" changes didn't catch up to the future by the time they had left for the past (85)?

Yeah, you could say that. Though Doc at one point explicitly says that the temporal change around...whatever Marty's girlfriend's name is..."instantaneous".


Lilty Cash - Jul 13, 2004 9:26:25 am PDT #424 of 10001
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

The 90s will be that bad too, in a second or so.

Yeah, man. Remember those trapeze shirt/dress things?

Although, I watched Reality Bites the other day. Most of that still looked ok to me.


Polter-Cow - Jul 13, 2004 9:29:42 am PDT #425 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Ah, but you do notice in the movies a certain lag between the causal event and the subsequent change. I don't remember how soon after (old) Biff got back to his present that Doc and Marty left, but could it be seen that the "chronal" changes didn't catch up to the future by the time they had left for the past (85)?

Yeah. Have any of you played The Journeyman Project ? In that game, alterations in time move along the timeline chronologically, altering as they go. So what they did is keep a disc of recorded history way back in the time of dinosaurs, so that it wouldn't be affected by people wreaking havoc across time. It probably doesn't make any sense, but it's a cool idea. It and its sequel are kickass computer games.