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Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned  

A place to talk about movies--Old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


Lilty Cash - Jul 13, 2004 8:45:16 am PDT #399 of 10001
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

I think I'd need the flowcharts.


Miracleman - Jul 13, 2004 8:50:53 am PDT #400 of 10001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

I could explain, I think...which do you wanna hear, how Back to the Future II is impossible, or why there were two Deloreans in the Wild West?


Sean K - Jul 13, 2004 8:52:11 am PDT #401 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

One of the other things that amuses me is when past films show "future technology" which appears dated by today's standards.

BttF II did a good job of speculating possible future technology, and on their "talking tech" (like the auto-sizing clothing) the voice technology sounded good for the time, but compared to today's artificial voice technology, it is now terribly dated.


§ ita § - Jul 13, 2004 8:55:59 am PDT #402 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

One of the other things that amuses me is when past films show "future technology" which appears dated by today's standards.

You kinda haveta, though, don't you? Unless you go the Alien route, or something Firefly-esque where you just root the design firmly and not coincidentally in a time period that isn't the future.

I can get past most of them, but the communications devices that are bulkier than my cellphone/bluetooth earpiece combo jar.


Aims - Jul 13, 2004 8:56:06 am PDT #403 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

t bangs head against computer

t MM and Sean know why


Lilty Cash - Jul 13, 2004 8:56:23 am PDT #404 of 10001
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

BttF II did a good job of speculating possible future technology, and on their "talking tech" (like the auto-sizing clothing) the voice technology sounded good for the time, but compared to today's artificial voice technology, it is now terribly dated.

All very true, but the fact remains: I want my hoverboard!!!

Also, I never heard the two delorean thing. Maybe in the time it takes MM to post it, I can figure it out.

Thinks real hard.


Sean K - Jul 13, 2004 9:00:05 am PDT #405 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Also, I never heard the two delorean thing. Maybe in the time it takes MM to post it, I can figure it out.

Aimee, go read some other thread.

The problem comes in BttF III when Marty goes back to the Old West and trashes the fuel pump and runs out of gas in the Delorean he uses to get there.

Doc Brown tells him they're screwed, because another fuel pump and gas station won't be invented for several decades.

However, what Doc Brown forgets is that he already has gas and another fuel pump right there in 1885 -- in the Delorean that got him there.

Solution whitefonted.


Jessica - Jul 13, 2004 9:00:14 am PDT #406 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Videophones are the futuristic accessory that always makes me laugh. Because the reason we don't have them now isn't that we don't have the technology, it's that they've been tried, and nobody wants them.


Miracleman - Jul 13, 2004 9:02:48 am PDT #407 of 10001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Basically it's this...

The "dramatic tension" in III was provided largely by the fact that an arrow had pierced Marty's Delorean's fuel line and the damn thing was out of gas. However do we get the Delorean up to 88 mph?

Well, in the Wild West timeline, Doc Brown had arrived in January and Marty had shown up in September of 1885. Presumably when Doc showed up the Delorean had some fuel in the tank. Doc, in January, put the Delorean in a mine to hide it. In September Marty brings the Delorean back. The Delorean that Doc Brown hid is still in the mine. Scavenge the fuel line from the Delorean in the mine, syphon the gas from the tank and you're good to go. No need for chemically treated logs and hijacked trains.


Sean K - Jul 13, 2004 9:04:22 am PDT #408 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Addendum to the Delorean solution --

Also? The Delorean that's sitting in 1885 with a working fuel pump, and maybe some gas? Is exactly the same Delorean Marty uses to get back to 1885 Himself.

Actually.... (and this won't be whitefonted), there are several points in all three movies when more than one Delorean is present in any particular given timeline.

The really amusing part about that? They're all every last one of them the same Delorean. There's only the one, just propagating itself throught time.