Jayne: What're you gonna tell the others? Mal: About what? Jayne: About why I'm dead. Mal: Hadn't thought about it. Jayne: Make something up. Don't tell 'em what I did.

'Ariel'


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Atropa - Sep 10, 2004 9:43:22 pm PDT #3811 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Wasn't Legend the movie with Tom Cruise as an elf?

But it has THE ultimate "If I become a goth, I get pretty dresses!" scene.


Alibelle - Sep 10, 2004 10:05:29 pm PDT #3812 of 10001
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

Would you consider the score from Ladyhawke Vangelis-y? It's strange, but even as widely anachronistic as that music is, I have a serious love of seeing Rutger Hauer galloping across the land with that thumping synthesizer track in the background

I just saw this movie this summer, at my hostel in Edinburgh! This Canadian guy and I were snickering through the entire thing, trying to figure out which parts would've been taken seriously at the time, and what we were supposed to know by which point. Like, is it supposed to be a surprise that Michelle Pfeiffer is the hawk? And then Matthew Broderick was totally playing medieval Ferris Bueller with a totally weird accent. And then two Korean girls came in, and we tried to explain the plot up to that point, and they were all like, what? Because why? How? What?

It was great.


Beverly - Sep 10, 2004 11:58:59 pm PDT #3813 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

aghast at the blasphemy!

"You mock my pain, Princess!"

I love Ladyhawke. From Alfred Molina to Leo McKern, I love it. (Except for the music. But connie likes even that, so).


Connie Neil - Sep 11, 2004 12:37:56 am PDT #3814 of 10001
brillig

But connie likes even that, so).

Now, this is freaky. The first time I wander into this thread in eons, and I find out that Bev has means of summoning me.

Yep, I like the "Ladyhawke" soundtrack. But then I'm notoriously plebian and uneducated and low-brow in my tastes. I found "Moulin Rouge" both boringly predictable and jarring. When someone starts singing "Roxanne," I'm thinking Sting, not Parisians.


Volans - Sep 11, 2004 4:04:40 am PDT #3815 of 10001
move out and draw fire

Also, remember that it's not a standalone -- it's part 3 of a trilogy

Do you mean part 1? Or do you really mean part 3? I've got Ju-On 2 sitting here also, but I'm not sure I'm going to watch it.

Does the rest of the trilogy explain how the boy and the cat became the same entity? Or why the ghosts kill some people immediately and leave others alone for weeks? Or why sometimes they kill people and you can find the body, but sometimes they just suck the person into another dimension? Or how police officers can be killed, with their files about the haunted house out on their desks, and no one takes an interest or seemingly notices?

Looks like the Raimi remake is going to be pretty much shot-for-shot, a la The Ring.


Frankenbuddha - Sep 11, 2004 6:29:39 am PDT #3816 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

What Jess said, but there is a current trend in Japanese horror to just say screw exposition - less talk, more creepy! See Ringu.

This also applies to the Italians at times (for further reference see the films of Dario Argento and Lucio Fulci among many, MANY others). And in both cases, depending on the era, lotsa gore.

The current Japanese trend seems to be more for the creepy than for the gory, however.


Polter-Cow - Sep 11, 2004 6:36:17 am PDT #3817 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Looks like the Raimi remake is going to be pretty much shot-for-shot, a la The Ring.

Raimi remake? The Grudge is by the same director as Ju-On.


Frankenbuddha - Sep 11, 2004 6:39:21 am PDT #3818 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Raimi just produced the remake. However, getting the original director doesn't always mean good things (e.g. THE VANISHING, NIGHTWATCH, etc.)


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 11, 2004 7:26:32 am PDT #3819 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I've seen stills of Ted Raimi in the remake.


DavidS - Sep 11, 2004 7:39:28 am PDT #3820 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Heads up for movie musical fans ( nudges Aimee) TCM is having a 93 film survey of musicals during October, ranging over 50 years. All the MGM classics, of course, but I'm sure there will be plenty of rarities in there.

Hmmm, it looks like it's running all day on Tuesdays through October, and it's chronological. Actually, it sort of prefaces the run with all three That's Entertainment compilations, then That's Dancing (several of these are OOP) on Mon 10/4. It's running chronologically, which is pretty interesting to see the development of the film musical.

4 Monday
5:00 PM That's Entertainment! (1974) An all-star cast, including Fred Astaire and Frank Sinatra, introduces clips from MGM's greatest musicals. Fred Astaire, Gene Kelly, Elizabeth Taylor. D: Jack Haley, Jr. C 135m. CC

7:30 PM That's Entertainment! II (1976) Fred Astaire and Gene Kelly dance together again for the first time in more than 30 years as they introduce classic musical numbers and comedy bits. Nelson Eddy, Fred Astaire, Gene Kelly, Jeanette MacDonald D: Gene Kelly. C 129m. CC

9:45 PM That's Entertainment! III (1994) Classic musical numbers and rare behind-the-scenes footage show how MGM created the screen's greatest musicals. Featuring clips with Gene Kelly, Lena Horne and Debbie Reynolds. June Allyson, Gene Kelly, Debbie Reynolds, Howard Keel D: Burt Friedgen, Michael J. Sheridan. 120m. LBX CC

12:00 AM That's Dancing! (1985) Gene Kelly, Liza Minnelli and Mikhail Baryshnikov host this compilation of some of the greatest dance numbers in movie history. Gene Kelly, Liza Minnelli D: Jack Haley, Jr. BW & C 105m.

2:00 AM Hollywood: The Dream Factory (1972) Dick Cavett narrates this documentary about the MGM auction and the studio's glorious history. C 51m. CC

5 Tuesday

3:00 AM The Jazz Singer (1927) A cantor's son breaks with family tradition to go into show business. Al Jolson, May McAvoy, Warner Oland. D: Alan Crosland. BW 89m. DVS

4:30 AM The Broadway Melody (1929) Love and success break up a vaudeville sister act. Charles King, Anita Page, Bessie Love. D: Harry Beaumont. BW 101m. CC

6:15 AM Show Boat (1929) First screen version of the classic musical about romance among the musical performers on a Mississippi showboat. Laura LaPlante, Joseph Schildkraut, Alma Rubens. D: Harry Pollard. BW 118m.

8:15 AM The Hollywood Revue (1929) Sketches and songs give MGM's silent stars a chance to show their stuff in talking pictures. Jack Benny, Buster Keaton, Joan Crawford. D: Charles Riesner. BW & C 118m.

10:15 AM Hallelujah (1929) A black laborer turns preacher after accidentally killing a man. Daniel Haynes, Nina Mae McKinney, William Fountaine. D: King Vidor. BW 100m.

12:00 PM Rio Rita (1929) A Texas Ranger finds love while tracking an outlaw. Bert Wheeler, Robert Woolsey, Bebe Daniels. D: Luther Reed. BW & C 102m. CC

2:00 PM Girl Crazy (1932) City slickers try to turn a broken-down ranch into a resort. Bert Wheeler, Robert Woolsey, Eddie Quillan. D: William A. Seiter. BW 74m. CC

3:30 PM Going Hollywood (1933) A girl poses as a French maid to catch a singing star. Bing Crosby, Marion Davies, Patsy Kelly. D: Raoul Walsh. BW 78m. CC

5:00 PM Love Me Tonight (1932) A Parisian tailor falls in love with princess. Maurice Chevalier, Jeanette MacDonald, Charlie Ruggles. D: Rouben Mamoulian. BW 89m.

6:45 PM 42nd Street (1933) The definitive backstage musical, complete with the dazzling newcomer who goes on for the injured star. Ruby Keeler, Dick Powell, Warner Baxter. D: Lloyd Bacon. BW 89m. CC

8:30 PM Flying Down To Rio (1933) A dance-band leader finds love and success in Brazil. Dolores Del Rio, Fred Astaire, Ginger Rogers. D: Thornton Freeland. BW 89m. CC

10:30 PM Roberta (1935) A football player inherits a chic Paris fashion house. Irene Dunne, Fred Astaire, Ginger Rogers. D: William A. Seiter. BW 106m. CC

12:30 AM Dames (1934) A reformer's daughter wins the lead in a scandalous Broadway show. Joan Blondell, Dick Powell, Ruby Keeler. D: Ray Enright. BW 91m. CC

2:15 AM Naughty Marietta (1935) A French princess in Colonial America gets involved with an Indian scout. Jeanette MacDonald, Nelson Eddy, Frank Morgan. D: W.S. Van Dyke II. BW 104m. CC

6 Wednesday

4:00 AM Gold Diggers Of 1933 (1933) Three chorus girls fight to keep their show going and find rich husbands. Joan Blondell, Ruby Keeler, Dick Powell. D: Mervyn LeRoy. BW 98m. CC

6:00 AM Gold Diggers Of 1935 (1935) A socialite is bamboozled into producing a stage show in her home. Dick Powell, Adolphe Menjou, Alice Brady. D: Busby Berkeley. BW 95m. CC

8:00 AM Rose Marie (1936) An opera singer goes undercover in the Canadian wilderness to hunt for her criminal brother. Jeanette MacDonald, Nelson Eddy, James Stewart. D: W. S. Van Dyke II. BW 111m. CC

10:00 AM The Great Ziegfeld (1936) Lavish biography of Flo Ziegfeld, the producer who became Broadway's biggest starmaker. William Powell, Myrna Loy, Luise Rainer. D: Robert Z. Leonard. BW 185m. CC

1:00 PM Swing Time (1936) To prove himself worthy of his fiancee, a dancer tries to make it big, only to fall for his dancing partner. Fred Astaire, Ginger Rogers, Victor Moore. D: George Stevens. BW 104m. CC DVS

3:00 PM On Your Toes (1939) A hoofer gets mixed up with a ballet dancer, triggering backstage jealousy. Vera Zorina, Eddie Albert, Donald O?Connor. D: Ray Enright. BW 94m.

5:00 PM Top Hat (1935) A woman thinks the man who loves her is her best friend's husband. Fred Astaire, Ginger Rogers, Edward Everett Horton. D: Mark Sandrich. BW 99m. CC DVS

7:00 PM Show Boat (1936) Riverboat entertainers find love, laughs and hardships as they sail along "Old Man River." Songs include "Make Believe" and "Bill. Irene Dunne, Allan Jones, Helen Morgan, Paul Robeson. D: James Whale. BW 114m. CC