Fair enough. and it might be, it's just I tend to be suspicious, where there's no evidence to suggest it, of the argument that the coda to films is a death dream of some sort.
If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
Book ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'
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Jim - Jul 13, 2004 7:47:15 am PDT #362 of 10001
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!
Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 13, 2004 7:47:41 am PDT #363 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I'm not so certain it's Michael Madsen's roles that have marked him, so much as his life off-camera.
Jessica - Jul 13, 2004 7:50:42 am PDT #364 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
In Free Willy, I spent the whole movie waiting for his utterly harmless dad character to freak out, cut somebody's ear off, and pour gasoline all over them.
HA!
I can buy the dream-ending interpretation of MR, but it doesn't make the movie any better for me. It just makes the last 40 minutes of the film an even bigger waste of my time than I originally thought.
Sean K - Jul 13, 2004 7:51:05 am PDT #365 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Also, The Final Countdown in which a modern US Navy aircraft carrier gets sent to Hawaii on Dec 6, 1941.
Oh, and I just remembered.... Not just any aircraft carrier, but the Nimitz, which is used for somewehat comic effect because in 1941, Chester Nimitz was still alive, and Charles Durning's character sort of scoffs at the idea of a carrier named after Nimitz.
Back to the Future 2 is great. Couldn't happen, according to its own internal logic, but lots of fun.
And don't forget about the miscounted Deloreans....
Miracleman - Jul 13, 2004 7:53:02 am PDT #366 of 10001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020
And don't forget about the miscounted Deloreans....
Is Aimee around? Just saying that usually gives her a headache...
And that was more of an issue in III anyway.
Frankenbuddha - Jul 13, 2004 7:54:25 am PDT #367 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
?In Free Willy, I spent the whole movie waiting for his utterly harmless dad character to freak out, cut somebody's ear off, and pour gasoline all over them.
This definitely would have made for a better movie.
§ ita § - Jul 13, 2004 7:55:06 am PDT #368 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
where there's no evidence to suggest it
Well, that's where we differ. I thought there was evidence. I'm keeping that in the past tense -- I certainly don't remember enough about the movie to go through it.
I think the coda is crap moviemaking. I just don't think it's optimistic crap moviemaking.
Millennium was a bad movie based on a short story I really liked. Sadly, Varley worked on the movie and loved it, so I don't even have that recourse.
Lilty Cash - Jul 13, 2004 7:56:45 am PDT #369 of 10001
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."
Back to the Future 2 is great. Couldn't happen, according to its own internal logic, but lots of fun
I knew I was growing up the first time when my brother and I watched the Back to the Future movies, which we loved dearly, and realized that it didn't work. It started with a "Heeey...." then snowballed into a full out hour long discussion of how much didn't work.
Miracleman - Jul 13, 2004 7:58:29 am PDT #370 of 10001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020
It started with a "Heeey...." then snowballed into a full out hour long discussion of how much didn't work.
Heh. Only an hour?
Sean and I and some friends had four hours. With flow charts.
We're dorks.
Sean K - Jul 13, 2004 7:58:55 am PDT #371 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
And that was more of an issue in III anyway.
Right, it's III that's back in the old west, and where the forgot a Delorean that might have provided extra parts and gas.
I certainly don't remember enough about the movie to go through it.
You don't want to watch again all the way through to try and pinpoint exactly what pointed to dream sequence for you?