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Nutty - Aug 27, 2004 4:14:05 am PDT #3160 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Yep, I hated The Fifth Element too. Reasons? Because I wanted to smack the smirk off the faces of... everybody involved in it, and the baroque sentimentality of the ending (OMG! Did you know war is bad ??), and the pointlessness of its high-concept design. Also? I do not book interstellar travel to go watch an opera singer get remixed for the dance floor. I can have that in any discotheque in France.

The last good thing that movie did was make Luke Perry beg for his mother.


§ ita § - Aug 27, 2004 4:18:05 am PDT #3161 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

At least Eve Salvail was in it. That was a pleasure.


askye - Aug 27, 2004 4:27:36 am PDT #3162 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

I love The Fifth Element it's way over the top and bright colors and it's great. Plus I love the alien monster guys. I also love Sleepy Hallow it was pretty! And Johnny Depp was pretty.

I have seen Hudson Hawk or Resident Evil but I really want to now.


Calli - Aug 27, 2004 4:27:50 am PDT #3163 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I liked The Fifth Element well enough when I saw it, but it was late and I realized about five minutes in that watching the pretty images without thinking too much about them was the way to go.

Event Horizon owes me $7.00, 2 hours, and all the Gaiman books it takes to replenish my faith in human creativity. This movie managed to bore me and irritate me simultaneously. If others found pleasure in it I'm happy for them, and I don't want to harsh their happiness. It's just that I'm still annoyed with it, this however many years later.

I'm looking forward to seeing Hero.


Tom Scola - Aug 27, 2004 5:59:12 am PDT #3164 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Another arbitrary top ten list from The Guardian:

The top ten sci-fi films


Vonnie K - Aug 27, 2004 6:09:56 am PDT #3165 of 10001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Huh. They are OK choices, if tad predictable.

I'd have included Brazil over The Matrix or Close Encounter, but that's just me.


§ ita § - Aug 27, 2004 6:20:55 am PDT #3166 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I remain unimpressed by Close Encounters.


Nutty - Aug 27, 2004 6:30:08 am PDT #3167 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I didn't really care for Close Encounters either, although I couldn't point to any one thing I hated. It was just sort of BTDT, which means I guess it may have just aged badly.

The Matrix to me is a monument of movie wizardry, but not a good SF movie. For one thing, I predicted the ending at about the 20-minute mark, complete with rising from the dead and seeing the code behind objects.

I'm sort of surprised Forbidden Planet didn't make it on there, since it's often bandied about on lists like these. I suppose the fact it is basically The Tempest in space may disqualify it.


Steph L. - Aug 27, 2004 6:34:33 am PDT #3168 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

From the top 10 sci-fi list:

The first two films of the original Star Wars trilogy make it onto the list probably for reasons of nostalgia rather than science.

Essentially westerns set in space....

Aren't many sci-fi movies, not just Star Wars, basically westerns in space? Or am I pulling that theory out of my ass?


Nutty - Aug 27, 2004 6:37:04 am PDT #3169 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I remember having a yammering argument about the "westerns in space" concept, and I think I came out with "You can't call it a western if it's based on Yojimbo" as well as "If westerns were the first true genre of movies, then all movies owe their existence to westerns, don't they?"

So, debatable. In the case of Star Wars, I'm gonna stand by the Yojimbo assessment. Just because Kurosawa movies get made into westerns does not mean they are all westerns to begin with.