That's the thrill of living in the Hellmouth! There's a veritable cornucopia of fiends and devils and ghouls to engage ... Pardon me for finding the glass half-full.

Giles ,'Same Time, Same Place'


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Polter-Cow - Jul 12, 2004 3:43:35 pm PDT #265 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

It's odd that you're so focused on the art, Beverly, because I love comics and for me, art is one of the last things I care about. It is the text that draws me in: the dialogue, story, characterization, ideas. I do like the art, mind you (have you seen any David Mack? Christ), but I know I'm not catching all the nuances. Plei and ita talk about inkers and pencilers and colorists, but I can hardly tell the difference from one issue to the next if you change them on me (though there was this one time I thought the art in Fables was weird and I checked and sure enough, the artist was different). And I read titles of all different styles. My point is don't let the art hold you back. And if you're going to give it a try, join us in the comics thread and we'll help you out.


quester - Jul 12, 2004 4:34:46 pm PDT #266 of 10001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

My oldest sister bought into buying comic books when we were in High School. This was back in the early '70's. Along with all the regular books, Marvel and later DC started putting out books that were called graphic novels rather than comics. Marvel had an excellent bunch of supernatural ones based on famous horror figures like Dracula, the Werewolf, even Frankenstien's monster. DC started Swamp Thing and Marvel countered with Man Thing. IIRC Howard the Duck spun off from Man Thing.

I got pretty caught up in them myself. Later she subscribed to Cerebrus and Elfquest, which I quite liked.


DXMachina - Jul 12, 2004 5:06:16 pm PDT #267 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

IIRC Howard the Duck spun off from Man Thing.

Yup. Actually, I ran across some of the books you're talking about when I was rummaging through my attic yesterday. Savage Sword of Conan, some Howard the Ducks, some of the others. All were black & white, large format books. They don't seem to be marked "graphic novels," but I remember the term being used when they were marketing them. Not that Stan Lee would hyperbolize or anything.


Frankenbuddha - Jul 12, 2004 5:18:08 pm PDT #268 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

You know,other than The Last Unicorn when I was 5, I can't think of any movie that's truly scared me. I just don't think my brain is built for horror movie appreciation.

Seeing SUSPIRIA at 13 pretty much covered me on anything else, horror-wise. Disturbed happens - Selected bits of Cronenberg, IRREVERSIBLE, and TROUBLE EVERY DAY all have squicked me out at various points, but for out-and-out terrifed, nothing has equalled that first Argento experience. Once bitten; forever jaded. Only movie that ever put me under the seat at the movie theater.

The original film of THE HAUNTING did spook the crap out of me when I saw it at 10, though.


Steph L. - Jul 12, 2004 5:22:10 pm PDT #269 of 10001
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

Not that Stan Lee would hyperbolize or anything.

Stan Lee on The Simpsons is one of the funniest things EVAH.


Jessica - Jul 12, 2004 5:27:28 pm PDT #270 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I just saw the new Manchurian Candidate, and it didn't suck at all. The way the storytelling's been updated from Cold War paranoia to War On Terror paranoia is very successful, I think. And Meryl Streep is just amazing. She has by far the most difficult role, and she just nails it.

I'm curious to see what the varying reactions will be, from both fans of the original and people coming to the story new. I found it very difficult to judge the pacing, because I wasn't waiting to find out what would happen. I was waiting to find out what would happen differently, and so there were sections in the middle where I wanted the story to just unfold already. But it's possible someone who didn't know the original movie wouldn't have felt that way.


Frankenbuddha - Jul 12, 2004 5:30:47 pm PDT #271 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Jess, whitefont if you have to, but I'm really curious - how do they justify the title?


Frankenbuddha - Jul 12, 2004 5:33:57 pm PDT #272 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Oh, and I'm also curious - did you see/what did you think about Truth About Charlie? I rather liked it myself, and thought the original was far LESS sacrosanct from remake than TMC (although maybe it's the casting of CHARADE that had people resenting the remake).


Scrappy - Jul 12, 2004 5:35:22 pm PDT #273 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Jess, do they keep the creepy incest-yay vibe?


Jessica - Jul 12, 2004 5:37:46 pm PDT #274 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Well (waves goodbye to film cred once again), I've never seen Charade. So I liked The Truth About Charlie, but since I wasn't mentally comparing it with the original, the answer to your question is Not Applicable.

The title of the remade Candidate refers to Manchurian Global, a bigass eeeeeeevil multinational corporation.

(Not much of a spoiler -- it's mentioned within the first five or ten minutes of the film.)

[eta: Robin, yes. Hell yes, in fact.]