Kaylee: So how many fell madly in love with you and wanted to take you away from all this? Inara: Just the one. I think I'm slipping.

'Serenity'


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§ ita § - Aug 08, 2004 7:47:19 am PDT #2459 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Whereas Cruise of Roberts or Hanks always deliver a certain set of attributes which their films are designed to highlight?

That was one of the thrusts of the article, yeah. Actors are making more diverse choices, so they're less attached to an overriding persona.


sumi - Aug 08, 2004 8:06:24 am PDT #2460 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Better for the actors -- less good for the business of Hollywood?


Allyson - Aug 08, 2004 8:29:36 am PDT #2461 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Can Reese be the next Hepburn? I surely do love me some Reese.


Gris - Aug 08, 2004 8:36:24 am PDT #2462 of 10001
Hey. New board.

Can Reese be the next Hepburn?

Audrey or Katherine?


beekaytee - Aug 08, 2004 8:41:37 am PDT #2463 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

Katherine, I think.

Anyone who could pull off Election definitely has Kate's spunk.


Gris - Aug 08, 2004 8:43:00 am PDT #2464 of 10001
Hey. New board.

Yeah, she works much better as a Kate.

We need a new Audrey. But i'm not sure that anybody will ever be able to be her again.


DavidS - Aug 08, 2004 8:49:12 am PDT #2465 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Audrey's particular charms were unprecedented and, I think, unduplicable.


Gris - Aug 08, 2004 8:52:24 am PDT #2466 of 10001
Hey. New board.

My sister kind of looks and acts like her, sometimes. She does an excellent impression of her in Roman Holiday, especially.

Too bad she's not really interested in becoming a movie star.


Volans - Aug 08, 2004 8:58:30 am PDT #2467 of 10001
move out and draw fire

Ah, okay then. I would certainly say we do create celebrities now, nsm movie stars.

And yeah, hardly anyone knows who Christian Bale is.


DavidS - Aug 08, 2004 9:03:54 am PDT #2468 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I would certainly say we do create celebrities now, nsm movie stars

I think the industry is still star-driven. Action films will always make more money because they play better in non-English speaking countries. Star = franchise = knowable quality = $100 million on opening weekend. A lot of actors love to have a franchise character that they can interchange with their smaller movies - like Zellwegger with Bridget Jones.

Old time studios spent a lot of time building up stars and creating their mystique. Now it's more up to the individual actors (and their agents and publicists). But it's still the same idea.

The one thing I'd note that's distinctly different is that franchises are more about the vehicle/milieu than about the character. Star Trek franchises, rather than James T. Kirk franchises.