I just said that you're pretty. Even when you're covered in...engine grease, you're... No, especially, especially when you're covered in engine grease.

Simon ,'Jaynestown'


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Katie M - Aug 06, 2004 10:31:04 am PDT #2245 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

You must rent the uncut version immediately! That's a film that gets all the best stuff chopped out for TV, more so than Young Frankenstein.

You're right, I should. I mean, I had no idea Mungo was straight!


Kathy A - Aug 06, 2004 10:36:02 am PDT #2246 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Considering that the only women with speaking roles in Blazing Saddles were Lily Von Schtupp, the governor's secretary, and the schoolteacher, Marion(?) Johnson ("It just goes to prove that you are the leading asshole in this state"), I'm surprised that there wasn't more hoyay in the film.


§ ita § - Aug 06, 2004 10:48:35 am PDT #2247 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's probably horrendously redundant to say I'm both more weapons-oriented and whip-sensitive than Nutty. But I forget these things, and shouldn't be surprised when more normal folk than I think of cows with whips before people. They're pretty much only a punishment in my eyes.


§ ita § - Aug 06, 2004 10:59:23 am PDT #2248 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Huh. Preliminary googling seems to indicate that you don't whip animals -- well not livestock, anyway. Whips seemed to be used in those scenarios to startle them with the noise.

So it's mainly folk that get hit with them, it seems.


Steph L. - Aug 06, 2004 11:02:06 am PDT #2249 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

"A wed wose, how womantic!"

"God damn it, Mr. Lamarr sir, you use your tongue purtier than a twenny dollar whore!"

"They said you was hung!"
"And they was right!"


Sheryl - Aug 06, 2004 11:03:14 am PDT #2250 of 10001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

"It's twue, it's twue!"


Nutty - Aug 06, 2004 11:06:29 am PDT #2251 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

It's probably horrendously redundant to say I'm both more weapons-oriented and whip-sensitive than Nutty.

Well, I tend to go by design and etymology, before I go through the cultural associations. A bullwhip was used on cattle (and probably on European serfs)(not smurfs) long before it was used in the American slave context; and its name says "bull" not "person", so I think the cowpoke context first.

Also, yeah. I don't call a thing a weapon unless it has no other use, or it is being used as such right then and there. Despite having used a shoe as a hammer, I don't automatically think "hammer" when I say "shoe".


JohnSweden - Aug 06, 2004 11:06:59 am PDT #2252 of 10001
I can't even.

A rake is a tool, and you could probably club someone to death with it, but that's not the first thing that leaps to my mind. (Not the plastic kind of rake, but the old wooden kind.)

Rake vs. human scenarios seem to crop up best in golfing humour.

"So, then I stood on the rake and those were the best balls I hit all day", etc.

I'm both more weapons-oriented and whip-sensitive than Nutty. But I forget these things, and shouldn't be surprised when more normal folk than I think of cows with whips before people. They're pretty much only a punishment in my eyes.

I don't think of a whip as a weapon, per se, in that context. It's an implement of torture/discipline, but I wouldn't think of a cat o' nine tails as a particularly effective weapon against someone able to defend themselves. Once inside the optimum range of a bullwhip, I wouldn't think of it as much use except as a strangling device or a floppy club.


lisah - Aug 06, 2004 11:12:58 am PDT #2253 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

Not about whips, I don't think, but...

What are some dance movies from the 80s? I got Flashdance, Footloose, Girls Just Wanna Have Fun, Breakin' & Breakin' 2, Electric Boogaloo. What else is there?


§ ita § - Aug 06, 2004 11:14:22 am PDT #2254 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I tend to go by design and etymology, before I go through the cultural associations

But we do agree a knife is a weapon, right? Even though it probably wasn't designed to slice people, and that the huge majority of its usage today isn't as a weapon.

I don't call a thing a weapon unless it has no other use

This explains the question about krav and the magazine, I realise. They're all weapons to me, even if I haven't worked out how. Some things, like whips, came along with a significant history of having been used as such, so I don't even have to engage my imagination.

Once inside the optimum range of a bullwhip, I wouldn't think of it as much use except as a strangling device or a floppy club.

Much like a bazooka becomes a club at close range -- every weapon has their distance.

I'm not saying I'd pick it as a good weapon for a fight, but there are arts that do teach it.