Hmm. It's sounds like the finest party I can imagine getting paid to go to.

Mal ,'Shindig'


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Sean K - Aug 06, 2004 9:19:34 am PDT #2216 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Isn't the bullwhip considered to be a weapon?

I thought so.

Startlingly so?

Yes! Startling! If you can hit somebody and make the sound, you're talking about carving bigger, deeper chunks out of them, as the sound comes from the tip breaking the speed of sound (or so I understand).


§ ita § - Aug 06, 2004 9:21:23 am PDT #2217 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think, formally speaking, most people would call a bullwhip a weapon, until it was used on them personally.

Then what is it? Schroedinger's leather strip? And does one allow a knife the same latitude?

If you can hit somebody and make the sound, you're talking about carving bigger, deeper chunks out of them, as the sound comes from the tip breaking the speed of sound (or so I understand).

To me that's a bit like saying guns are startlingly lethal if you hit your target.

It's kinda how you're supposed to do it. Not startling. Appropriate.


JohnSweden - Aug 06, 2004 9:23:15 am PDT #2218 of 10001
I can't even.

"When you get your first crack, you just want to keep on cracking."

No smoking the good cat crack jokes, not even a Christina Aguilera corset dress joke? Have I logged into the wrong board?


Jessica - Aug 06, 2004 9:24:01 am PDT #2219 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think I'd be a little startled if someone killed me with a bullwhip. Though if I had the capacity to reflect on it afterwards, it would probably occur to me that I shouldn't have been, because of the whole weapon thing.


Jesse - Aug 06, 2004 9:24:45 am PDT #2220 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

And does one allow a knife the same latitude?

Knives at least have other uses. What else is a whip for?


sumi - Aug 06, 2004 9:25:10 am PDT #2221 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I think that the Dean Cain series is something about a baseball team.


Sean K - Aug 06, 2004 9:25:38 am PDT #2222 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

It's kinda how you're supposed to do it. Not startling. Appropriate.

Right, which was what I was trying to point.

But you seem to already know that.

So I'll shut up now.


Nutty - Aug 06, 2004 9:25:55 am PDT #2223 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Well, but a lot of the time, whips are used to make the noise, and the noise only, to startle. Alternately, whips are used, without making the noise, to sting the skin of cattle and make them react.

I don't think very many cowhands intentionally crack their whips and carve chunks out of their cattle, because (a) hello to the infections and inferior meat and (b) a bellowing, rageful cow is nobody's friend.

I think also that cattle have much thicker skin than humans (which would explain why briefcases are not made of people skin). So, it hurts a cow less to be hit with a whip than it does a human. Same again with cattle prods. In both cases, I would call them herding tools, until they were being used on me.


Sean K - Aug 06, 2004 9:26:46 am PDT #2224 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Also, I'd be pretty startled if I sprouted a bullet hole too, so I'd argue that they're both pretty startling, properly used.


Sue - Aug 06, 2004 9:27:19 am PDT #2225 of 10001
hip deep in pie

I think that the Dean Cain series is something about a baseball team.

He plays a pro baseballer who be-friends and possibly (memfault) adopts the new orphan batboy. (Not that kind of batboy.)