Yes. Men like sports. Men watch the action movie, they eat of the beef, and enjoy to look at the bosoms. A thousand years of avenging our wrongs and that's all you've learned?

Xander ,'End of Days'


Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned  

A place to talk about movies--Old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


Lyra Jane - Jul 30, 2004 3:23:46 am PDT #1693 of 10001
Up with the sun

I really liked the way The Graduate was directed, but I think it's more an interesting period piece than a Great Movie.


Fred Pete - Jul 30, 2004 3:30:16 am PDT #1694 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

but I suspect it was the same crowd who liked Love Story.

I liked LS. As a pleasant couple of hours, not as anything that has any resemblance to real life.

It's a '40s melodrama in '70 costume.

And will try Godfather uncut.


Nutty - Jul 30, 2004 4:33:46 am PDT #1695 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

A psychopath is not the same thing as a psychotic. "Psychopath" is the obsolete term for sociopath, or somebody incapable of moral formation and empathy.

"Psychopath" has been used a lot through the history of psychology, to mean a lot of things. When it was used in the 19th C, it tended to be applied to anybody who was violently insane, especially the sclerotic ranters. It got refined to mean antisocial personality disorder (empathy-lacking egocentricity) in the 20th C.

FWIW, I don't think Batman has zero empathy; he doesn't strike me as impulsive; and he acknowledges standards, rules and needs other than his own. (And goes on to blow them away sometimes, but acknowledges that's what he is doing.) But it is true that his pain is more important than other people's pain, and he's got a melodramatic streak a mile wide, and he courts fame (traipsing about the city in a cape) but denies it (secret identity). He defines himself by how other people (law-breakers) see him, rather than by how he sees himself. In pre-sidekick canon, he doesn't form many close relationships, and those he does form are with people who serve his needs (Alfred) rather than his equals. I think there's evidence for wondering whether he has a narcissistic personality disorder, although that's the sort of nuanced interpretation that will vary depending on who is writing it.

Agreed 'psychotic' as a term has lost most of its meaning -- we use it to mean "I fear you" and not to mean a specific symptom. Certainly, Batman knows what is real and what isn't, and doesn't show signs of hallucinations or delusions.


§ ita § - Jul 30, 2004 5:09:19 am PDT #1696 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

He has his share of hallucinations, but probably no more than any other hero in the DCverse.

When does a mistakenly held belief become a delusion? What's the official definition?


sumi - Jul 30, 2004 5:19:08 am PDT #1697 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Wizardnews has a story from Contact Music that they will be filming two sequels to PotC at the time, effectively taking Orlando Bloom out of the movie-making market for a year. (I would imagine that the same could be said of Keira Knightley and Johnny Depp -- but this was a story about Orlando.)


Nutty - Jul 30, 2004 5:28:34 am PDT #1698 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

When does a mistakenly held belief become a delusion? What's the official definition?

I don't have it to hand, but basically a delusion is an unreasonable belief (within cultural context, so religiousness e.g. doesn't count unless it's really wacko). It's possible to know one's belief is unreasonable, and try to combat the belief by asserting the unreasonableness (thought stopping), which is one kind of therapy for psychotic disorders.

The classic line of this type I read by a doctor a couple of years ago: his patient called him up and said, "Doctor, someone's going to blow up LaGuardia Airport!" The doctor asked, "Why are you calling me, instead of the police?" and the patient replied, "Because I'm crazy!"

He couldn't bear not to tell anybody, the delusion was so overwhelming and frightening, but he was aware that it was a delusion and was trying to act accordingly.


tommyrot - Jul 30, 2004 5:29:10 am PDT #1699 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

When does a mistakenly held belief become a delusion? What's the official definition?

When one clings to it despite being exposed to much evidence to the contrary? (Just a guess.)


Vonnie K - Jul 30, 2004 5:48:07 am PDT #1700 of 10001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Roger Ebert's conclusion on his review of The Village:

Eventually the secret of Those, etc., is revealed. To call it an anticlimax would be an insult not only to climaxes but to prefixes. It's a crummy secret, about one step up the ladder of narrative originality from It Was All a Dream. It's so witless, in fact, that when we do discover the secret, we want to rewind the film so we don't know the secret anymore.

And then keep on rewinding, and rewinding, until we're back at the beginning, and can get up from our seats and walk backward out of the theater and go down the up escalator and watch the money spring from the cash register into our pockets.

Heh. Is it so wrong that this is making me want to see the movie even more?


tommyrot - Jul 30, 2004 5:53:32 am PDT #1701 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

You know, I really wanna see it now. I just don't wanna pay $9.50. Or even $4.50 matinee prices. I just hope it comes to a cheapo theater.

To call it an anticlimax would be an insult not only to climaxes but to prefixes.

Cute. And funny.

The preview they showed on the news this morning made we wanna see it too. Poor Sigourney.

edit: I just went to imdb. A big red slash appeared across my screen. Stupid ad for the movie.


Fred Pete - Jul 30, 2004 6:19:52 am PDT #1702 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

You know, I really wanna see it now. I just don't wanna pay $9.50. Or even $4.50 matinee prices. I just hope it comes to a cheapo theater.

The way the reviews are going, it would be a good shot for a revived MST3K.