Does anybody mind if I pass out?

Willow ,'Beneath You'


Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned  

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Nutty - Jul 29, 2004 11:20:52 am PDT #1630 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

No worries, Ple. I know the knee-jerk of which you speak. I think it's valuable to go through de-mythification sessions, to shake up settled thinking and force viewers to re-evaluate their opinions, every now and then. The fact that my de-mythifications are like unto cult deprogramming should in no way reflect on my moral fiber.

Ollie ollie oxen free: "classic" movies that failed to work on you. If I can forgive my brother in law for disliking Real Genius, the world can forgive me for not caring one way or the other for just about any of the Katharine Hepburn romantic comedies.


P.M. Marc - Jul 29, 2004 11:23:22 am PDT #1631 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Ple, sorry, didn't mean to get your back up; I was responding to Nutty specifically raising the issue of ToE not being generally popular and having a Big Classic reputation that makes a lot of people keep it at arm's length.

Now I'm confused, because I didn't see in the post where you switched from the CK discussion to the ToE one. Too many movies! Argh! Brain... breaking! I was responding on a CK level.

I'm still baffled at the notion of a Big Classic Rep keeping people from seeing things, because I think that's the only thing keeping a lot of good older movies in print and the only reason most people see them. The buzz, you see. I'm not doubting it, just stating that it's foreign to my experience.

I haven't seen ToE in at least a decade, and I can't actually remember how I responded to it. (It's weird: the movie is a blank spot in my viewing history. I remember my extreme joy at, say The Ruling Class, or at Nothing Sacred, but all I remember about ToE is that I've seen it.)


Polter-Cow - Jul 29, 2004 11:26:32 am PDT #1632 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

the world can forgive me for not caring one way or the other for just about any of the Katharine Hepburn romantic comedies.

Does The African Queen count? That didn't do much for me. Though there was an explosion at the end. That was nice.


P.M. Marc - Jul 29, 2004 11:28:52 am PDT #1633 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Ollie ollie oxen free: "classic" movies that failed to work on you. If I can forgive my brother in law for disliking Real Genius, the world can forgive me for not caring one way or the other for just about any of the Katharine Hepburn romantic comedies.

I like most of them, but can't stand her early dramas like Stage Door, which doesn't stop me from wandering about with a dull look on my face muttering "the calla lilies are in bloom again" when I'm tired.

Until I was 20 or so, it was like pulling teeth to get me to watch anything that wasn't older than me. I've seen a scary number of old movies as a result.


P.M. Marc - Jul 29, 2004 11:30:40 am PDT #1634 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Does The African Queen count? That didn't do much for me. Though there was an explosion at the end. That was nice.

I don't think so. It's a different beast from the mannered patter of her romantic comedy films of the 30s and 40s (which are lampooned beautifully in The Hudsucker Proxy).

It's also my mother's fav movie for some reason.


Volans - Jul 29, 2004 11:58:18 am PDT #1635 of 10001
move out and draw fire

Just saw the Batman trailer - what's up with the batlogo looking like the Nazi eagle? Are we saying that Batman's going to invade Poland? Or that Batman is as occult and psycho as Hitler? Or that he's a very well organized superhero with cool outfits?

I'm hoping that they are purposefully blurring the line between good-guy-hero and bad-ass-psychopath, but I'm scared it's just a thoughtless art choice, designed to let us know the story is set mid-century.


§ ita § - Jul 29, 2004 12:00:27 pm PDT #1636 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Or that Batman is as occult and psycho as Hitler?

I'm hoping that they are purposefully blurring the line between good-guy-hero and bad-ass-psychopath

::says nothing::

::really::


Lyra Jane - Jul 29, 2004 12:10:23 pm PDT #1637 of 10001
Up with the sun

I've never seen Touch of Evil. As a non-filmy person, I can say I have heard very little about it before this discussion, certainly no Big Classic Reputation. I think it's somewhere on my Netflix queue now, for the Orson Welles factor.

I saw Forrest Gump when it came out, and didn't have a strong reaction to it. I remember thinking Robin Wright looked really different than in The Princess Bride, but that's about it. No desire to rewatch.

I love Casablanca, and greatly admire Citizen Kane.

Also, I tend to like the idea of Katharine Hepburn more than I actually like her onscreen.


P.M. Marc - Jul 29, 2004 12:16:23 pm PDT #1638 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I'm hoping that they are purposefully blurring the line between good-guy-hero and bad-ass-psychopath, but I'm scared it's just a thoughtless art choice, designed to let us know the story is set mid-century.

I wasn't under the impression that BB is set mid-century.


§ ita § - Jul 29, 2004 12:20:19 pm PDT #1639 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I wasn't under the impression that BB is set mid-century.

Mid-which-century, anyway?

I don't see how that car can be anything other than "near future."