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Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned  

A place to talk about movies--Old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


JZ - Jul 29, 2004 8:23:56 am PDT #1601 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Suela, I found Spidey 1 enjoyable enough, but Spidey 2 wrecked me in a very, very good way. If you decide to see it, it may possibly ping you in all your Farscape-loving dark, sad, cathartic, watching-deeply-loveable-characters-suffer-horribly places. At least, that's where it pinged me


Hayden - Jul 29, 2004 8:26:09 am PDT #1602 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I liked 'em both, and I liked Spider-Man 2 (which we saw on Sunday) better than the first, which would have been better if we'd only been able to see more of Willem Defoe's own goblin-like face. I can't remember if it was said here or at PF, but someone said that the first one had too many shots of the unmoving Spider-Man mask talking with the unmoving Goblin mask, and it played like some sort of new kubuki theater.


§ ita § - Jul 29, 2004 8:29:16 am PDT #1603 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

watching-deeply-loveable-characters-suffer-horribly places

See, if you don't find Spidey deeply lovable, this won't help you.

Last week I had a friend go off (and on, and on) about MJ. What a horrible person! he kept exclaiming, but he has this long drawl, so it kept sounding like he was calling her a whore. His points were sound, I felt -- her character was flawed enough to take her into Marissa territory and beyond -- I could not care about the men that want her.


juliana - Jul 29, 2004 8:30:02 am PDT #1604 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

I've not seen Touch Of Evil, but I'd like to. I love Citizen Kane on such a immediate visual level that it's hard for me to expound on it past how freakin' gorgeous it is to me. It almost looks like a painting, it's so damn beautiful. I don't mean in a Moulin Rouge visual crack way, I mean the interplay of the shadow and the film and the... Oh. So pretty.

Speaking of the pretty - of the list of pretty men, my boys are, in order: Matt Damon, Johnny Depp, Colin Firth, Orlando Bloom, and Hugh Jackman. Most of the younger James Franco-type actors I've not seen enough to make a judgement, and the other ones I'm rather meh on.


Nutty - Jul 29, 2004 8:31:09 am PDT #1605 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I thought the first Spidey was sloppy and foolish; I thought the second Spidey was sloppy and goofy. There is a fine distinction between the two, and I vastly prefer goofy given the choices.

Okay, there are people who enjoy Touch of Evil on a gut level, but they are in the tiny minority. When I think about trying to introduce my flatmate (who avowedly never watches B&W films) to old movies, I never, ever think of TOE. I mean, this is the woman who has no desire to see Casablanca or The Maltese Falcon, not even for the cultural competence factor, so it's an uphill battle no matter how you slice it, but yeah. NSM with the obvious appeal, at least not to most of its audience. I think its trashiness wasn't fun enough for me. When I feel complicit in the trashy, I can get hooked, but I found TOE's trashiness mostly just off-putting and annoying.


Scrappy - Jul 29, 2004 8:38:46 am PDT #1606 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Love TOE and not in a film geeky way. Just in a pure WOW way. I also liked Gump--not enough to want to see it again, but I didn't feel like it was the simplistic polemic the right wing made it out to be. I loved the music and the little cultural references throughout and Sinise's performance, so that was enough to equal mild like.


Jessica - Jul 29, 2004 8:41:11 am PDT #1607 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Okay, there are people who enjoy Touch of Evil on a gut level, but they are in the tiny minority.

Well, except here, where we appear to be in the overwhelming majority.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 29, 2004 8:49:18 am PDT #1608 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I've never seen Casablanca, as I've been holding out for a big-screen showing to have my first experience of the movie. Actually, the Orpheum is holding one August 20th, so since I'm going to be tapped as a chauffer to my cousin's graduation the next day, I may see if I can line up a date for a nostalgic night at the theatre.


Nutty - Jul 29, 2004 8:52:04 am PDT #1609 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Except for all the lurkers who suport me in email.

Also the fact it's nowhere near the AFI top 100 -- if the vast majority of its viewers adored it viscerally, it would be a lot more in the cultural consciousness, don't you think? Whereas, I don't know many people outside of film devotees who have seen it, and of those, I don't know many who have loved it, except those who have spoken up here.


Scrappy - Jul 29, 2004 8:54:22 am PDT #1610 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Yeah, but it plays at revival houses all the time, which implies that there is some kind of audience for it.