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Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned  

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§ ita § - Jul 11, 2004 3:15:35 pm PDT #143 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm watching The Outsiders right now, and off the top of my head I can't remember a worse pan-and-scanned movie. The shots are so cramped, and you can really feel them sliding around and trying to compromise, with everyone bleeding off the side all the time.

I'm inattentive enough that even when I notice egregious scanning, I'm not usually made as tense as this is making me. It's not a technical point -- it's affecting the mood of the piece.


Gandalfe - Jul 11, 2004 3:20:38 pm PDT #144 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

I can't remember a worse pan-and-scanned movie.

A Boy and His Dog was HORRIBLY done.


§ ita § - Jul 11, 2004 3:39:29 pm PDT #145 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Luckily I never saw that one fullscreen.

A&E has just taken The Outsiders widescreen for the last few seconds. It would be jarring except it's more jarring how they scrinch the credits over to the left while they run an ad for This Old House with audio right on the tail of Sodapop's ending.

Putative Outsiders remake.


Jessica - Jul 11, 2004 3:42:25 pm PDT #146 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

The worst pan-n-scan job I've ever seen was on Wild Things. The fake pans during the threesome were hysterical.

The full-screen version of The Graduate (to redeem what's left of my film cred after just having admitted to seeing Wild Things) has such obvious panning and scanning that the AMMI uses it in their "What is Pan & Scan?" exhibit. (The shot that they use is a gorgeous two-shot of Dustin Hoffman and Anne Bancroft talking to each other, each in close-up profile on opposite sides of the screen. The full-screen version pans back and forth between them, utterly ruining the effect.)


§ ita § - Jul 11, 2004 3:43:53 pm PDT #147 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The full-screen version pans back and forth between them, utterly ruining the effect.

I've seen that cited a lot, but again never saw it fullscreen. If you didn't know that pan and scan existed, would it still be egregious, or is it "merely" ruining a beautiful shot?


Jessica - Jul 11, 2004 3:47:12 pm PDT #148 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I've never seen the whole movie fullscreen either, so I'm not sure. My guess is that it probably wouldn't stand out from the rest of the panning and scanning, but you might be left wondering why people think this is such a good-looking film.


§ ita § - Jul 11, 2004 3:52:18 pm PDT #149 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

When they framed The Outsiders they made it so more than one fullscreened conversation involves half-eyeballs. Distracting.

Speaking of Wild Things, I noticed this in IMDB's trivia section for it:

Director John McNaughton says he deleted a scene that would have shown 'Dillon, Matt' and Kevin Bacon showering together, as it was gratuitous.

Yeah, because they sure were concerned about making sure nothing gratuitous made it to the final cut. Good looking out, BASTARDS.


Jessica - Jul 11, 2004 3:54:57 pm PDT #150 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Yeah! Whatever happened to equal-opportunity gratuitous nudity?


Gandalfe - Jul 11, 2004 4:51:09 pm PDT #151 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

Yeah. The threesome scene was brilliantly gratutious (and is, as far as I'm concerned, the only excuse for Denise Richard's presence in ANY movie), but chicks should have had something to ogle, too.


Jessica - Jul 11, 2004 5:49:42 pm PDT #152 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

and is, as far as I'm concerned, the only excuse for Denise Richard's presence in ANY movie

I thought she was great in Undercover Brother. She plays a good parody of herself.