Wesley: Illyria can be...difficult. Testing her might be hard without getting someone seriously hurt. Angel: We'll make Spike do it. Wesley: Good.

'Underneath'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Gris - Jun 20, 2005 11:28:37 am PDT #9671 of 10001
Hey. New board.

I am undecided on the question of whether Strong was homosexual or heterosexual, really. Certainly something about Brandt snapped him into a place where the sexuality itself became much less important than the expression of power that it represented, and self-hating attraction is certainly something that could have that effect. But I'm not sure it's what it was, exactly.

One theory I rather like is that Strong, being rather screwed up himself pretty clearly, had some experience with rape or abuse in his past that has been stewing inside his brain looking for an outlet. When approached by the initial "victim," his jaws closed down around the case as an opportunity to revenge this past wrong on somebody who got off on the expression of power in his sexual experiences, somebody who could easily be seen as a surrogate for whatever rapist Strong was hoping to get his revenge on. When the case fell through, he couldn't let go, and attempted to get his revenge anyway by raping others of Brandt's ladies, hoping he could get Brandt the easy way by slapping him into jail. But that didn't work. Eventually, the obsession with the revenge became an obsession with the idea of expressing power over Brandt, which he expressed through the rape and murder of the women, in two different ways.

First, he used them as a surrogate for Brandt, raping them with short hair and his cologne, probably calling them by his name as he beat them. But he acknowledged that they were surrogates for Brandt, not Brandt himself, and kept the hair as personal evidence that he was more than Brandt. He went further than Brandt ever would in his lust for sexual power; he took it all the way, and with women that Brandt himself had failed to finish. He was more than the man he was revenging, better at what he perceived as their shared, disgusting perversions and that made him powerful enough to finish the job. He knew all along he would kill himself once it was complet: he hated that he liked the power trip, as he hated that Brandt liked it. But he had to bring Brandt down in the only way he could before he put himself out of his misery.


jengod - Jun 20, 2005 12:04:11 pm PDT #9672 of 10001

Tim's mom is a TV critic? Like a professional...or in the same way that I'm a TV critic?

Also, I hate the neighbors and their damn smoking right outside my window.

!!!!!!


Allyson - Jun 20, 2005 12:06:44 pm PDT #9673 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Speaking as a smoker who's sensitive to other people's issues with smoke, why not just let them know it's coming in your window? If I knew, I'd find another place to smoke.


Wolfram - Jun 20, 2005 12:07:54 pm PDT #9674 of 10001
Visilurking

I've tried telling folks that their smoke is blowing up my ass, but it never seems to help.


Polter-Cow - Jun 20, 2005 12:14:24 pm PDT #9675 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Tim's mom is a TV critic? Like a professional...or in the same way that I'm a TV critic?

I believe Cindy was making a joke about the critic's massive praise of the Timster.


Topic!Cindy - Jun 20, 2005 12:42:26 pm PDT #9676 of 10001
What is even happening?

Yeah, jengod, what P-C. The article said Tim was one of the five premier writers in TV, today (or something equally as lovely).


DavidS - Jun 20, 2005 12:45:22 pm PDT #9677 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The article said Tim was one of the five premier writers in TV,

One of the five best minds.

In short, Tim = spicy brains.


Allyson - Jun 20, 2005 12:53:50 pm PDT #9678 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

The executives at Fox hired Tim Minear to salvage the project. Minear worked his way up the TV ladder as a writer on various shows until he made his mark on the Buffy the Vampire Slayer spin-off, Angel. From there he executive produced the critically-lauded Firefly in 2002 before creating Wonderfalls last year. How good is Minear? It would not be rash to consider him one of the five best minds in television.

From The Weekly Standard


Polter-Cow - Jun 20, 2005 12:54:21 pm PDT #9679 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Of course, this begs the question of who the other four are.


Allyson - Jun 20, 2005 1:01:29 pm PDT #9680 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

It doesn't really beg the question.