Or "what doesn't kill you...doesn't kill you."

Wow, that's some kind of profound. Actually, I may have to start using it that way.

A perfect dom doesn't, no. I'm not saying I'd let him tie up my nearest and dearest, but I just don't get why he's supposed to have been playing (rather than, say, overreaching).

a dom that tries to force his/her sub to do something against their will is far from perfect. this is a basic tenet. i'm not talking out of my ass here, I know several people in the scene and have had extensive discussions about just this sort of thing. That's one thing that Brandt was right about, after they stopped speculating about the parties' motivations among themselves, they needed to ask someone who knew.

Oh, here is something that I'm confused about: did the cop do the initial killing that started the investigation that led to Brandt being a suspect in the first place? So that he could follow up on Brandt's social life and rape and murder all of his dates? Or are we to assume that the cop was stalking Brandt for his own reasons prior to the beginning of the first investigation?

Or is there still a killer out there?

"Deep Down" led to the recap I was afraid I'd have to explain to my mother. And it can't possibly be me reading into things.

Nope, Wes and what's-er-name gave off a very DS vibe (without the consent element, of course).

Also, for the record, Wes and Lilah always struck me (aside from teh very hot) as two switches who hated to admit they liked to bottom.

That could have been just my issues...

a dom that tries to force his/her sub to do something against their will is far from perfect

I'm not calling him perfect! I'm saying there's a difference between playing at something, and not being the best (or even, honestly, good) at it. I think they imply very different mindsets. Brandt took BDSM seriously -- probably too seriously, which is what led him to chain up Rebecca and then freak. That's not playing, in my book.

I confused Colin Firth with Clive Owen. (And, in fact, still can't picture either one of them in my mind.)

And looking at their first conversation from her perspective, who the hell does he think he is, trying to tell her what being tied up does to/for a person?

Ummm....she asked him. Was he supposed to not answer her?

Did I read [link] wrong?

Oh, I thought that you said that you weren't talking about Rebecca's fairness, you were talking about my fairness, I don't see what you meant by that, I didn't say anything about fair.

sumi, I'm pretty sure Strong did the initial killing. He started stalking, I think, after a rape accusation which was later recanted.

a dom that tries to force his/her sub to do something against their will is far from perfect

I'm not calling him perfect! I'm saying there's a difference between playing at something, and not being the best (or even, honestly, good) at it. I think they imply very different mindsets. Brandt took BDSM seriously -- probably too seriously, which is what led him to chain up Rebecca and then freak. That's not playing, in my book.

Yes, this. Totally.

I didn't say anything about fair.

I wasn't saying that Rebecca was fair, or needed to be -- I was saying that I disagreed with what I'm reading you as saying - that it wasn't a fair (as in mine -- watch the world revolve around ita, why don't we?) reading of the text.