Everything looks good from here... Yes. Yes, this is a fertile land, and we will thrive. We will rule over all this land, and we will call it... 'This Land.' I think we should call it 'your grave!' Ah, curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal! Ha ha HA! Mine is an evil laugh! Now die! Oh, no, God! Oh, dear God in heaven!

Wash ,'Serenity'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Emily - Jun 17, 2005 7:46:12 am PDT #9462 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

I am also confused that Teppy confused Bale with Owen.

I thought she was confusing Firth with Owen.

My god! It's madness around here! Cats lying down with dogs...


brenda m - Jun 17, 2005 7:46:27 am PDT #9463 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

They said because he didn't "play nice." I interpreted that as meaning that he doesn't always respect limits - which the scene with Rebecca seemed to bear out.


Cashmere - Jun 17, 2005 7:46:41 am PDT #9464 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I get where Steph is coming from, I think.

I like that the issue of BDSM became irrelevant because the unsub wasn't who they thought it was. However, all the indications--Rebecca's line about "what made them that way" and Paul's freaked out reactions to his ex-crush's sexual tastes--are that only fucked up people go in for BDSM. Which just isn't true. Lots of mentally healthy, unscarred people go for it and to portray it as some kind of twisted kink is sort of bothersome to me. But it didn't ruin the episode for me or anything.

The only other really closely portrayed BDSM I can recall is the CSI with Lady Heather--which I thought addressed it better than this. But I try to keep from comparing The Inside to CSI because I think they're very different shows.


§ ita § - Jun 17, 2005 7:47:23 am PDT #9465 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

wait, I'm confused.

Did I read [link] wrong?


brenda m - Jun 17, 2005 7:47:37 am PDT #9466 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Or "what doesn't kill you...doesn't kill you."

Wow, that's some kind of profound. Actually, I may have to start using it that way.


Vortex - Jun 17, 2005 7:47:59 am PDT #9467 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

A perfect dom doesn't, no. I'm not saying I'd let him tie up my nearest and dearest, but I just don't get why he's supposed to have been playing (rather than, say, overreaching).

a dom that tries to force his/her sub to do something against their will is far from perfect. this is a basic tenet. i'm not talking out of my ass here, I know several people in the scene and have had extensive discussions about just this sort of thing. That's one thing that Brandt was right about, after they stopped speculating about the parties' motivations among themselves, they needed to ask someone who knew.


sumi - Jun 17, 2005 7:48:49 am PDT #9468 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Oh, here is something that I'm confused about: did the cop do the initial killing that started the investigation that led to Brandt being a suspect in the first place? So that he could follow up on Brandt's social life and rape and murder all of his dates? Or are we to assume that the cop was stalking Brandt for his own reasons prior to the beginning of the first investigation?

Or is there still a killer out there?


Astarte - Jun 17, 2005 7:48:59 am PDT #9469 of 10001
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.

"Deep Down" led to the recap I was afraid I'd have to explain to my mother. And it can't possibly be me reading into things.

Nope, Wes and what's-er-name gave off a very DS vibe (without the consent element, of course).

Also, for the record, Wes and Lilah always struck me (aside from teh very hot) as two switches who hated to admit they liked to bottom.

That could have been just my issues...


§ ita § - Jun 17, 2005 7:49:40 am PDT #9470 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

a dom that tries to force his/her sub to do something against their will is far from perfect

I'm not calling him perfect! I'm saying there's a difference between playing at something, and not being the best (or even, honestly, good) at it. I think they imply very different mindsets. Brandt took BDSM seriously -- probably too seriously, which is what led him to chain up Rebecca and then freak. That's not playing, in my book.


Steph L. - Jun 17, 2005 7:49:44 am PDT #9471 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I confused Colin Firth with Clive Owen. (And, in fact, still can't picture either one of them in my mind.)

And looking at their first conversation from her perspective, who the hell does he think he is, trying to tell her what being tied up does to/for a person?

Ummm....she asked him. Was he supposed to not answer her?