I don't think Rebecca was ever saying someone else was in control, just that Strong wasn't.

Ah. I'll buy that for a dollar.

I haven't seen the first episode yet (stupid car) and so all these mentions of gory just make no sense at all. Squick or creepy? Oh sure.

I liked it ok. I'm decidedly lukewarm on all new shows for a few episodes at least (unless I've been taunted into watching them by diabolical whitefont) and that's a little less true here. I see potential for me to like it lots.

The butt genie, Jebuslug, "Home"... these are a few of my more nightmare-making things, thank you very much!

maybe people delinate between pictures seen on TV and scenes played. The pictures seem less real than the "action".

The pictures were actually way creepier to me than the scenes with the, say, body on the slab, for some reason.

I finally realized why the first ep creeped me out so much. It was the fact that he attacked her/kidnapped her from her apartment.

Yeah that hit a huge button for me because I was attacked in my home. From the front though, the guy came out of a lit bathroom into my dark hallway and jumped me. I had had some amazing self defense training, though, and what I learned kicked in immediately and I was able to fight him off. I'm always on alert when walking down the street, getting in my car, and in my house. But I'm not scared usually because I've got the skills. (And, Vortex, if you are ever at all interested the self defense class I took is offered in DC. I'm always happy to pimp it. It seriously changed my life and may have saved it.)

I did have to look behind the door last night after I came back from walking my dog just in case there was somebody there waiting to leap on me! Why last night instead of after the first ep, who knows?

So you think they're reacting to the content, in terms of what they're talking about? I think you might be right, but it's imprecise to call that gore.

This exactly. I remember when Pulp Fiction and Braveheart were both out at the same time. People were disgusted by all the gore in PF, but the gore in Braveheart didn't ping them. For me, Braveheart had significantly more gore on screen than did PF, but PF was more intense content-wise leading to a sense of more gore.

The Inside is disturbing on a psychological level with the implied, but not graphically shown, things that happen. Seeing Brandt's face right after the rape scene tore me up. He had lost control, been violated, and he had this dead look of giving up in his eye that chilled me. Gore? No. Disturbing? Hells yeah.

The butt genie, Jebuslug, "Home"... these are a few of my more nightmare-making things, thank you very much!

Incestuous mothers who use boards to slide
Genies that travel the world up backsides
Slugs that are Jesus and live in your spine
These some things of the squick-making kiiiiiind!

I need to go throw up.

Hey Evander Holyfield got kicked off Dancing with the Stars. What reason is there to watch now? Really.

So either it's out goring CSI or it's got less ghastly details. Can it be both, emprically?

Perception of gore is a completely subjective thing. I don't think there's any "empirically" about it.

[To be honest, nothing so far has looked real enough to squick me. I don't viscerally react to gore if I can tell it's latex.]

Yeah, I saw some of the same "gore for gore's sake blah blah" over at TWoP. I expect them to hate the show, they hated Angel, Firefly and Wonderfalls, too, but I don't usually expect them to go so herd group-think with stuff that's, frankly, not there.

Frankenbuddha, my tag (you were asking about it, weren't you?) was from an article on men's and women's car-buying (and car-preferring) practices, I believe. But I no longer have the link.