Angel: Is that what you think you are--a hero? Spike: Saved the world didn't I? Angel: Once. Talk to me after you've done it a couple more times.

'Destiny'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


AnthonyDe - Jun 16, 2005 8:56:15 am PDT #9254 of 10001
A One that isn't cold, is scarcely A One at all.

I need to go throw up.

Hey Evander Holyfield got kicked off Dancing with the Stars. What reason is there to watch now? Really.


Jessica - Jun 16, 2005 8:56:27 am PDT #9255 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

So either it's out goring CSI or it's got less ghastly details. Can it be both, emprically?

Perception of gore is a completely subjective thing. I don't think there's any "empirically" about it.

[To be honest, nothing so far has looked real enough to squick me. I don't viscerally react to gore if I can tell it's latex.]


Tim Minear - Jun 16, 2005 8:56:56 am PDT #9256 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

Yeah, I saw some of the same "gore for gore's sake blah blah" over at TWoP. I expect them to hate the show, they hated Angel, Firefly and Wonderfalls, too, but I don't usually expect them to go so herd group-think with stuff that's, frankly, not there.


Emily - Jun 16, 2005 8:58:12 am PDT #9257 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Frankenbuddha, my tag (you were asking about it, weren't you?) was from an article on men's and women's car-buying (and car-preferring) practices, I believe. But I no longer have the link.


Nutty - Jun 16, 2005 9:00:26 am PDT #9258 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I thought the photos Rebecca flipped through in this episode were disturbing but didn't linger long enough to really catch any detail.

Beg to differ. I recognized at least one horizontal brain cross-section. (Which was not bloody.)

I'm personally of the opinion that actual bloody gore works on some people, but in most cases it's just a turnoff (or basically invisible) without being sufficiently disturbing. Disturbingness is value-added in a gore scene. Gift with purchase, you know.

I will say, both gore and the attempt to disturb are often over-used, so that they begin to lose value. That was the mistake of Millennium, I always thought.


Vortex - Jun 16, 2005 9:05:18 am PDT #9259 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

You know, I really liked Paul last week, but suddenly I don't anymore. Due to the extreme judginess.

I thought that his "judginess" was completely normal and understandable. People have enough issues with processing the idea that some people like S&M without adding the issues of knowing someone who participated, much less someone that they were attracted to and rejected them. It was the most extreme representation of "girls don't like nice guys" Not only did she not like the nice guy, she chose to be with someone who would hurt and degrade her. I'm really glad that he didn't go with "well, she was into S&M, so she must be damaged, that's why she didn't want me"


AnthonyDe - Jun 16, 2005 9:06:03 am PDT #9260 of 10001
A One that isn't cold, is scarcely A One at all.

Overall I liked the episode. I don't know how much of the Bible belt you get to turn in to a SM/Gay raper plot. I'm surprised to see how much humor there's been. The renactment was sweet. Rebecca is a little annoying. If I were Paul I think I'd tell her to quit analyzing me already.

Paul gets a cup of coffee. R: "You like it black and that's your second cup. There are circle under your eyes. You're not sleeping well." P: "No just lactose intolerant. Can you quit analyzing me now?"

Favorit part: who sent the message to Paul's beeper? I think it was Rebecca!


sarameg - Jun 16, 2005 9:11:01 am PDT #9261 of 10001

Fluids. I can't do fluid gore.

Autopsy scenes on CSI don't bug unless there is oozing. Or oozy or crackly sound effects. I'm ok with "inside the body, cells/bullets/parasites flowing" shots. Just not...fluids. There was one with a deadguy in a bathtub that had me gagging all night and I finally lost my dinner. Trying not to think too closely as it is now.

That said, while the ooze provokes a physical reaction, the things thattend to creep me out and linger are more tied to an idea than a visual.

There was a movie (I don't remember) where the moster was never seen. I hated that movie because it sketched me out for weeks. (I actually liked it, but was really resentful until I stopped jumping at shadows.)


lilserf - Jun 16, 2005 9:11:16 am PDT #9262 of 10001
Friends don't let friends dismiss Veronica Mars unjustly.

I second Polter-Cow's motion that the "just kidding, I'm really gonna kill myself, not you" moment be retired as an overused TV cliche.

That said, as I watched that moment the thing going through my head was "If he *hadn't* decided to kill himself, our good guys woulda been too late," which I found a little intriguing. The characters didn't seem to notice that fact, however.


Polter-Cow - Jun 16, 2005 9:12:31 am PDT #9263 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Rebecca is a little annoying. If I were Paul I think I'd tell her to quit analyzing me already.

He he he. I got a little of that too. Everything has some superspecial meaning to her. I still feel like she's the voice of the writer sometimes.

I second Polter-Cow's motion that the "just kidding, I'm really gonna kill myself, not you" moment be retired as an overused TV cliche.

Not just TV, movies too. I caught it at the end of Tomb Raider 2: Let's Make Another Crappy Tomb Raider Movie the other day (my mom was flipping channels).