The "Home" episode of The X-Files was the grossest thing I've ever seen on TV. Gross doesn't necessarily equal gore, but still.

I don't think The Inside is heavily gore-tastic at all. The pictures last night went by too fast to really notice. What got me more was Strong and Brandt -- it was so clear what was about to happen, and Brandt was helpless. It wasn't gory, and the actual violence wasn't shown, but it was horrifying in the blunt reality of what was going to take place.

So you think they're reacting to the content, in terms of what they're talking about? I think you might be right, but it's imprecise to call that gore.

So either it's out goring CSI or it's got less ghastly details. Can it be both, emprically?

On the latter I'd say no, but I can't say on the former because I've never watched CSI.

However, I do know it's hitting squick buttons less than some episodes of the X-Files, but I'm doubtful you'll be featuring any Fluke Boys, Jesus-Banana-Slugs, people getting mulched in escalators, or butt genies. Mrs. Peacock, however, would certainly be in the realm of possibility.

In terms of current shows, I think House is far gorier, though the people there are supposed to be alive during the gross-out scenes, which, in a lot of ways, makes it worse.

Tim, I would say primarily the crime scene photos. Like for instance the pictures in the folder that Rebecca was reviewing at last night start. Oh and the morgue scenes.. (I don't like those on CSI ether)
I watch crime drama in spite of the gore not because of it. Its just not my cup of tea. Though It seems to be a popular flavor for others so I don't understand why those people are watching The Inside.

I do agree I don't think that is that much worse that any of the other shows on right now. Part of my issue is my DH does not like my "death shows" and this is not helping my case. (Then again he never liked Firefly so I think there is something wrong with his brain)
Both nights so far I have left the hour a little freaked out, so your doing your job.

I think the gore charge is entirely related to the first episode. I think that formed impressions which are not entirely accurate about the show as a whole. I thought the photos Rebecca flipped through in this episode were disturbing but didn't linger long enough to really catch any detail.

Well, CSI goes consistently and needlessly over the top. Arms in meatgrinders, etc. Yech.

I don't think Rebecca was ever saying someone else was in control, just that Strong wasn't.

So I've been thinking about it some more, and it strikes me that what I understand (from the storyline) happened to Brandt (kidnapped, restrained, raped, made to believe he was going to be murdered) is very different from what I viscerally (from what we saw) believe happened to him. This isn't a criticism, just a realization. Because we saw mostly shots of his upper body and head and he remained clothed throughout -- and also because he manages to be cool and disdainful afterward -- the rape didn't actually make the impact it otherwise might have. Which might be why I'm kind of harping on it, because I'm trying to get my brain to fit it into what happened.

I don't know if that makes sense to anybody else, or just to me. I'm also not at all certain he'd stop scening after this.

or butt genies

Oh, god, the butt genie. And the Jebuslug.

(Few things have delighted me more than guessing right about what Sahjhan was up to, after all.)

Hee. I remember those e-mails. We both came up with similar ideas. Except I only called the part about Sahjhan's punishing Angel for something he hadn't done yet, not writing the prophecy himself.

Note to self: watch Tivo'd Inside eps during the daylight.

Heh. I just watched it right now, at noon, with lunch. I wonder what it would have been like had I watched it last night.

"Twisted Oliver." Awesome.

*snort*

Anyone care to do a recap?

Sex sex sex murder murder sex.

"I still think you were full of it saying that 'surviving' an S&M session makes you stronger. But take my word for it, surviving real-life abduction and abuse really does."

That is definitely lurktastic.

Oh, and I didn't get the hair-chopping until I realized the killer was trying to make them look more like Club Guy.

Ooooh. I didn't get that either. Thanks. But was there really a reason to save that hair, then?

I don't know which I love more, all the spicey, analytical brains on display, or the fact that there's a show that's really engaging them.

Seriously. I saw all these posts, and then I come here and discover they're actually about the episode. Not, say, space clams in dirigibles.

Okay, so. I just watched Batman Begins last night (which is why I missed The Inside ), and the word of the movie was "fear." For this episode, the word was "control," and I had a similar reaction: even though it felt heavy-handed at times (like, how many times can we get everyone to use the word "control," huh?), I still really liked the way the characters explored the concept. I've recently discovered that one of my pet themes, in addition to identity issues, is power struggles, so it was interesting to see some analysis of S&M relationships. I don't think I'd ever actually heard that it was the submissives who have the power, but the explanation makes sense. It's this weird duality there. You sacrifice all the power but the very highest.

You know, I really liked Paul last week, but suddenly I don't anymore. Due to the extreme judginess. And I know some people like that he's aware of it, and it may be that I am also judgy but self-aware about it, but I feel like he was a bit...oppressive with it. Not really giving the people he was judging the benefit of the doubt. Like Rebecca said, he didn't know what made them like that. We'll see how I like him next week.

I was the network. I thought it was obvious the doorman was the killer, so I spent the episode waiting for that twist. And then...oops, another one. Although I'm getting a little tired of the device where the scene is set up to look like one person is getting shot but in fact the person shoots himself. Because I've seen it FIFTY BAZILLION TIMES. I mean, if that's what needs to happen, fine, but just stop pretending to trick me. Show it to me straight. Show me his eyes.

Rebecca was stronger in this episode, I agree, and I liked that she had a very visceral reaction to being handcuffed, with yellow-tinted flashbacks to her own abduction, and that she didn't have that during the reenactment, because she expected it and was in more of a safe space.

And the "Who sent the text message?" issue? Fucking sweet.

I'm not sure that I am superduperhooked just yet. I'm liking what I'm seeing, and the mysteries are different from what I've seen before, so that's cool, and I really want to know Web's deal. But I'm definitely continuing to watch.

I don't think Rebecca was ever saying someone else was in control, just that Strong wasn't.

Ah. I'll buy that for a dollar.

I haven't seen the first episode yet (stupid car) and so all these mentions of gory just make no sense at all. Squick or creepy? Oh sure.

I liked it ok. I'm decidedly lukewarm on all new shows for a few episodes at least (unless I've been taunted into watching them by diabolical whitefont) and that's a little less true here. I see potential for me to like it lots.