Don't let the space bugs bite!

Kaylee ,'Objects In Space'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


JZ - Jun 11, 2005 10:21:19 am PDT #8658 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

P-C, that sounds cool. Can you share?

Oooh, yes, please.

You ask what's in it for you? A shiny nickel! And maybe cookies. And lots of Teh Love from the West Coast. You just have to move out here to collect.


Polter-Cow - Jun 11, 2005 10:22:23 am PDT #8659 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I want cookies!

26 23 22 23 minutes till I watch!


JZ - Jun 11, 2005 10:26:48 am PDT #8660 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Wait, I've never done this before. Wha'happens? It's all just sitting there saying I'm connected to 0 peers. Is it doing something I'm not seeing, or do I need to start over?


Polter-Cow - Jun 11, 2005 10:29:01 am PDT #8661 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Just wait, it takes a little while to kick in.


Consuela - Jun 11, 2005 10:33:19 am PDT #8662 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Michelle Forbes, cool!


Polter-Cow - Jun 11, 2005 11:54:44 am PDT #8663 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Okay, that was pretty sweet.

And it would have been ten times cooler than Supernatural or whatever they've got instead.


§ ita § - Jun 11, 2005 12:46:23 pm PDT #8664 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I want to make this guy chicken soup.

Yes, yes you do. I went to school with him, and he's a doll.

I also might have found it on bittorrent, and will watch when I get a moment.


Polter-Cow - Jun 11, 2005 1:10:10 pm PDT #8665 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I want to make this guy chicken soup.

Yes, yes you do. I went to school with him, and he's a doll.

Who is he, in relation to the show? Creator, exec producer, writer?

I wrote a post of my thoughts on the pilot. No spoilers.


Allyson - Jun 11, 2005 1:21:35 pm PDT #8666 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I've been thinking about the critics' response that Rebecca is in peril in the first three eps, and the accusation of misogyny that goes with that.

Web is running the show, and his team consists of two men, and two women. He doesn't give a shit about the sex the people on his team, I'd say given what I've read, he hasn't time for the silliness, the lack of logic, in making judgments about investigative skills based on plumbing.

Web's methods of investigation rely on the intuitiveness, intelligence, and personal talents of his team. It struck me in seeing these things as a complete piece that Web's cold manipulation is sort of subverts the misogeny of the criminals they investigate.

Ultimately, Web's on the side of the good guys, even if his methods seem suspect and sometimes harmful/evil.

Serial killers, serial rapists, they tend to target women and children, and so that's what we'll see.

But in the pilot, it's ultimately a woman who figures it all out, and though she was bait, she was tricked into being bait by a superior, which is something she couldn't have suspected. A boy wouldn't have, either. The killer chose women. If he had been targeting pretty boys, Paul would have ended up with the gun in his side, as well.

I loved that Web put his arms around her and said, "you're not gonna fall again, are you?"

The line was delivered with concern, as was, "you were never alone." Which to me says he got on that train with her, he had her back.

Paul's preotectiveness, I think, is more driven by her sex. I can't see him being that concerned if Becky had been a Ben.


Kristen - Jun 11, 2005 1:31:38 pm PDT #8667 of 10001

Paul's preotectiveness, I think, is more driven by her sex.

I'm not sure. I don't know if it's driven by her being a girl or her being a "victim" or both. I think Paul has White Knight Syndrome.

ETA: Part of me thinks that, no matter who replaced Alvarez, Paul would be protective of them. Given what happened to her and that no one saw it coming, he would want to be extra diligent in making sure that didn't happen again.