I like money better than people. People can so rarely be exchanged for goods and/or services!

Willow ,'Showtime'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


DXMachina - Jun 09, 2005 7:04:53 am PDT #8496 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Sorry, Web shooting first bothers me a lot, and it took me out of the story. So did the bit where Rebecca pointed the gun at Paul, and there was no comment. The fact that there was a cut scene that did address it really doesn't wash, because if I wasn't in this thread, I'd never have known it. I think this is a case of as much as I like the style of the show, and like Tim's dialogue, the basic premise just doesn't work for me. Probably not gonna be my show.


§ ita § - Jun 09, 2005 7:10:01 am PDT #8497 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

For me, as usual, it's authorial intent. I see that Tim wants me to excuse Rebecca training a gun on Paul, but I also see how Paul would let that slide without the cut scene. I don't see that Tim wants me to excuse Web anything -- even without the shot, so far he's a pretty despicable guy. I guess shooting first is something he seemed capable of -- I'm not surprised he did it, so much as I'm surprised it was written into a network show.

Our law enforcement training teaches us to enter rooms with guns at "low ready" -- pointing down at 45 degrees. If Rebecca had gone from low ready to aiming at Paul, I think I'd be bothered more. But if I'm a newbie entering a building, and my gun is raised and I whirl with it raised and my finger off the trigger (as hers was), and it was Paul (as in, not Danny), I can definitely buy how it played out.


Wolfram - Jun 09, 2005 7:11:43 am PDT #8498 of 10001
Visilurking

Yeah. I thought it was hugely effective on E.R., whereas here, I saw it coming as soon as they paged her.

Dana, how did you guess that the victim was the missing Alvarez? Because they didn't know when they paged her that the body was hers.


sumi - Jun 09, 2005 7:13:31 am PDT #8499 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Re: overnights. Doesn't the increase in viewership over the lead-in mean anything?

ita -- what do you think Danny would have done?


§ ita § - Jun 09, 2005 7:13:55 am PDT #8500 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Because they didn't know when they paged her that the body was hers.

But once you've seen "Where's that person?? We have a corpse to deal with!! Page again!!!" it's easier to guess that the pager's going to BE INSIDE THE HOUSE.


§ ita § - Jun 09, 2005 7:15:31 am PDT #8501 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

what do you think Danny would have done?

I think Danny would have been a lot more hostile, right there, and agitated against her afterwards too. Paul's Mr. Understanding Guy.

Actually, I like to imagine Danny disarming her and stopping just short of an actual counterattack.


Kristen - Jun 09, 2005 7:16:13 am PDT #8502 of 10001

I'll suspend disbelief for both that, and Marg's stiletto heeled investigatory fuck me boots on CSI.

I would like to mention that, when they went into the morgue, Rebecca pulled her hair back. I was stupidly pleased by that.

Our law enforcement training teaches us to enter rooms with guns at "low ready" -- pointing down at 45 degrees.

But oddly enough, the West Coast FBI doesn't seem to. Apparently, there's some weird thing East Coast/West Coast schism. The East Coasters enter with their guns low. The West Coasters do not. </Without a Trace DVD Commentary>


Dana - Jun 09, 2005 7:16:40 am PDT #8503 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Dana, how did you guess that the victim was the missing Alvarez? Because they didn't know when they paged her that the body was hers.

Because I'm conditioned to see it that way. Same way I knew that when Rebecca got on the train alone, she'd run into the real killer. I didn't immediately see that Web had used her as bait, so props to Tim for that.


Wolfram - Jun 09, 2005 7:18:50 am PDT #8504 of 10001
Visilurking

But once you've seen "Where's that person?? We have a corpse to deal with!! Page again!!!" it's easier to guess that the pager's going to BE INSIDE THE HOUSE.

There wasn't time for them to pull a "page again." The scene may have been similar to something on E.R., but it was anything but predictable. At least it made me go, whoa.


sumi - Jun 09, 2005 7:20:15 am PDT #8505 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Didn't Webb get who it was before the pager went off?