I'm all up in the law now, but damn it feels good to get my violence on.

Gunn ,'Unleashed'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Kalshane - Jun 09, 2005 6:57:29 am PDT #8493 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Oh, can I second how absolutely horrible that lead-in sitcom was? I had to put it on mute and my cousin went outside, telling me to let him know when it was over.


Kiba Rika - Jun 09, 2005 7:01:08 am PDT #8494 of 10001
I may have to seize the cat.

After sleeping on it, I don't think I'm in love with the show yet.

I feel this way, too. My words were something like, "I'm trying, I'm trying really hard to love it, but I'm coming up all like."


Dana - Jun 09, 2005 7:04:27 am PDT #8495 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

The one where the guy being paged was the jumper being worked on? Me, I barely processed the beeper going off, so it didn't twig for me.

Yeah. I thought it was hugely effective on E.R., whereas here, I saw it coming as soon as they paged her. It must be really difficult to write for TV in an age where so many people are so familiar with the conventions.


DXMachina - Jun 09, 2005 7:04:53 am PDT #8496 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Sorry, Web shooting first bothers me a lot, and it took me out of the story. So did the bit where Rebecca pointed the gun at Paul, and there was no comment. The fact that there was a cut scene that did address it really doesn't wash, because if I wasn't in this thread, I'd never have known it. I think this is a case of as much as I like the style of the show, and like Tim's dialogue, the basic premise just doesn't work for me. Probably not gonna be my show.


§ ita § - Jun 09, 2005 7:10:01 am PDT #8497 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

For me, as usual, it's authorial intent. I see that Tim wants me to excuse Rebecca training a gun on Paul, but I also see how Paul would let that slide without the cut scene. I don't see that Tim wants me to excuse Web anything -- even without the shot, so far he's a pretty despicable guy. I guess shooting first is something he seemed capable of -- I'm not surprised he did it, so much as I'm surprised it was written into a network show.

Our law enforcement training teaches us to enter rooms with guns at "low ready" -- pointing down at 45 degrees. If Rebecca had gone from low ready to aiming at Paul, I think I'd be bothered more. But if I'm a newbie entering a building, and my gun is raised and I whirl with it raised and my finger off the trigger (as hers was), and it was Paul (as in, not Danny), I can definitely buy how it played out.


Wolfram - Jun 09, 2005 7:11:43 am PDT #8498 of 10001
Visilurking

Yeah. I thought it was hugely effective on E.R., whereas here, I saw it coming as soon as they paged her.

Dana, how did you guess that the victim was the missing Alvarez? Because they didn't know when they paged her that the body was hers.


sumi - Jun 09, 2005 7:13:31 am PDT #8499 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Re: overnights. Doesn't the increase in viewership over the lead-in mean anything?

ita -- what do you think Danny would have done?


§ ita § - Jun 09, 2005 7:13:55 am PDT #8500 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Because they didn't know when they paged her that the body was hers.

But once you've seen "Where's that person?? We have a corpse to deal with!! Page again!!!" it's easier to guess that the pager's going to BE INSIDE THE HOUSE.


§ ita § - Jun 09, 2005 7:15:31 am PDT #8501 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

what do you think Danny would have done?

I think Danny would have been a lot more hostile, right there, and agitated against her afterwards too. Paul's Mr. Understanding Guy.

Actually, I like to imagine Danny disarming her and stopping just short of an actual counterattack.


Kristen - Jun 09, 2005 7:16:13 am PDT #8502 of 10001

I'll suspend disbelief for both that, and Marg's stiletto heeled investigatory fuck me boots on CSI.

I would like to mention that, when they went into the morgue, Rebecca pulled her hair back. I was stupidly pleased by that.

Our law enforcement training teaches us to enter rooms with guns at "low ready" -- pointing down at 45 degrees.

But oddly enough, the West Coast FBI doesn't seem to. Apparently, there's some weird thing East Coast/West Coast schism. The East Coasters enter with their guns low. The West Coasters do not. </Without a Trace DVD Commentary>