You will be vindicated, Allyson.
Y'all see the man hanging out of the spaceship with the really big gun? Now I'm not saying you weren't easy to find. It was kinda out of our way, and he didn't want to come in the first place. Man's lookin' to kill some folk. So really it's his will y'all should worry about thwarting.
Mal ,'Safe'
The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
Tamara - Jun 07, 2005 9:39:45 pm PDT #7994 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.
alienprayer - Jun 07, 2005 11:20:03 pm PDT #7995 of 10001
Conservative, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. -Bierce
I remember watching an interview with John Cleese, where he was talking about the critical reception for the first series of Fawlty Towers, which was mixed at best.
The interview pops into my head when new shows come around (particularly ones I anticipate). His opinion was that critics should do sketch reviews of the first few eps, then a complete review around episode four or five.
That until then, there was simply not enough information in the critics hand to evaluate the overall quality of the piece. That leads to my own (not in any way unique) theory that most professional criticism has little to do with evaluation, and more to do with rationalization of an initial reaction.
Do reviews even have much influence outside production/fan/industry types? I am rather curious about that.
Gris - Jun 07, 2005 11:51:23 pm PDT #7996 of 10001
Hey. New board.
The critics liked Dawson's Creek, right? At least at first?
And I hear they're still fond of Lost. And they seem to Love Raymond, which is apparently the Everybody thing to do.
Completely personal conclusion not intended to start a flamewar: With the exception of perhaps Wonderfalls and Veronica Mars, critics? Not necessarily full of teh smart.
None of the reviews have said anything that discourages me from the show. I like horror movies. I own the DVDs of both Se7en and Silence of the Lambs, and watch them both quite regularly. Tim is a genius. Rachel Nichols is hot. Dead babies are totally feel-good (okay, not so much, but creepy much definitely).
My faith is unchanged, unaltered, undiscouraged. This show seems designed to be "Cable? We don't need no stinkin' cable. Network TV can be dark, edgy, scary, and good, and Fox+Tim are here to prove it."
There's gonna be a revolution, yeah, you know.
Sheryl - Jun 08, 2005 3:22:38 am PDT #7997 of 10001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"
As I've said before, I'll give the show a shot, but I'm not sure that it's to my taste. I hope the character/plot stuff will overcome the ew-ness for me.(I prefer my violence/horror understated, and implied.) That's just me, mind you.
Jon B. - Jun 08, 2005 3:37:15 am PDT #7998 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Frankenbuddha - Jun 08, 2005 3:37:57 am PDT #7999 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
The (negative) review in the Boston Globe hits on just about every single point that Allyson mentions: [link]
It sounds like Rebecca psychologically controlling the situation until someone can physically get her out (which is my take on what Allyson is describing - I admit I may be reading what she's saying wrong) is not being read as "strength" by a lot of critics.
I also think there's a "police procedural" burn-out factor at work here. Whether that tag is accurate or not, it's the one that Fox seems to be pushing.
I'll be very curious to hear Allyson's take on the execution of the show versus the scripts.
Frankenbuddha - Jun 08, 2005 3:38:28 am PDT #8000 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Heh. X-post, natch.
tiggy - Jun 08, 2005 5:02:04 am PDT #8001 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
well...how about that. The Inside is on imdb's homepage and there's a big honkin' flash ad for it at the top of the page too.
Kevin - Jun 08, 2005 5:02:15 am PDT #8002 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Can I just say....
IT'S WEDNESDAY.
That is all.
msbelle - Jun 08, 2005 5:04:13 am PDT #8003 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
I will be watchiong on tape delay, maybe I can make it in time to watch & post with the west coast.