Spike: I'm not a monster. Xander: Yes! You are a monster. Vampires are monsters! They make monster movies about them! Spike: Well, yeah. Got me there.

'Dirty Girls'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


msbelle - Jun 08, 2005 5:04:13 am PDT #8003 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I will be watchiong on tape delay, maybe I can make it in time to watch & post with the west coast.


Kevin - Jun 08, 2005 5:08:11 am PDT #8004 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Screenshot for the archive


Kevin - Jun 08, 2005 5:10:39 am PDT #8005 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Right, a task for you all. If we can get the show on Slashdot(.org), you get a lot of extra viewers. It's a veeeeeeeery popular website.

So. We need to word a story to submit. I can submit it as I've got stories on before.

So, how would you pitch the show as interesting a must watch to a sci-fi/geek community?

One of the core owners is a huge Firefly/Serenity fan, so it will help.


Allyson - Jun 08, 2005 5:13:50 am PDT #8006 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Here's a good one.

[link]


lisah - Jun 08, 2005 5:23:38 am PDT #8007 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

I keep reading reviews of The Inside where critics pan it for being needlessly gory.

There's a pretty positive review in today's B'more Sun and their critic mentions the gory quite a bit. But he is saying get past the gore (and the surface resemblance to other procedurals) because there's something special about this show.

I think the review may be a little plot spoilery for the first ep.

[link]

You may need to register.


Jessica - Jun 08, 2005 5:28:12 am PDT #8008 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I just find the show as written so beautiful and funny, and terrifying, that I'm really confused by the critics. "It's like Silence of the Lambs and Seven. So you shouldn't watch it."

Huh?

I really do wish Jessica had seen the review DVDs, because maybe she could explain it to me.

I haven't seen so much "So you shouldn't watch it" as "So you've probably seen it before, done very well."

I've never seen SotL because I can't handle gore. It's the same visceral reaction I have to rollercoasters -- if it makes me feel like I'm going to vomit, I don't watch/ride. Se7en...well, I liked the last 20 minutes. Really wish I'd never gotten around to seeing the rest.

So for me, there is a certain extent to which "Like SotL and Se7en" means I shouldn't watch. But the impression I've gotten from the critical response is that the similarities are thematic, not executional, which IMO can only be a good thing. I'd love for there to be a creepy noir crime procedural that I can actually watch.

Completely personal conclusion not intended to start a flamewar: With the exception of perhaps Wonderfalls and Veronica Mars, critics? Not necessarily full of teh smart.

Please, let's not go there.

[eta: And I think the developers will back me up in saying that we really don't want to be Slashdotted, so if a review does appear there, can we be very careful about not letting it lead back to us? We've only got so much bandwidth.]


Vortex - Jun 08, 2005 5:30:31 am PDT #8009 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I mean, we all have to look.

But this is good. Come for the gore, stay for the excellent writing and complex characterization.


Kevin - Jun 08, 2005 5:36:39 am PDT #8010 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Re slashdot - I was going to link it to the Official site, and TheInside.org. The server TI.org is hosted on has been slashdotted before, and has coped - but I'd need to turn page caching on if we went down this route due to the dynamic nature of the pages...


Allyson - Jun 08, 2005 5:57:46 am PDT #8011 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Jessica, if you skip the teaser, you'll miss the worst of the gore, and I don't think you'll miss much story at all.

I don't think it's any more gory than CSI, but CSI is pretty gory.


Kevin - Jun 08, 2005 6:00:25 am PDT #8012 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

SF Gate have published a review of The Inside which, frankly, one of the biggest pile of shit reviews I've ever seen. I'm not talking about his judgements of how the show pans out in the first episode, as I haven't seen it - but I am talking about the way he writes off the show before he even gets into any details.