Spike: At least give me Wesley's office since he's gone. Angel: He's not gone. He's on a leave of absence. Spike: Yeah, right. Boo-hoo. Thought he killed his bloody father. Try staking your mother when she's coming on to you! Harmony: Well…that explains a lot.

'Destiny'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Tim Minear - Jun 06, 2005 12:15:08 pm PDT #7870 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

I will admit, there is violence against women. However in that second episode... well, I'll let you be judges. In the third, the victims are all men. So I'd say in the first three, the major victims are equally male/female. So I'm not sure saying it's all about violence against women washes, frankly. (Allyson and Kristen will hopefully back me up on this -- I'm talking Pilot, Old Wounds, Pre-Filer. Body count pretty even, seems to me.)

In the fourth episode, no females were injured in the filming of that episode.

I'll admit I put my hero in peril a lot. Too much, actually. I did it with Angel, Mal and even Jaye. But there's a story point here regarding Rebecca and that. Still, having your main character get grabbed every week, weak. I'll try not to do that in the future. As much. And the thing is always gonna be dark. Now I have to get back to my 900 lb serial killer, thanks. (And it's not always serial killers, either, btw.)


Vortex - Jun 06, 2005 12:16:39 pm PDT #7871 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I'll admit I put my hero in peril a lot. Too much, actually. I did it with Angel, Mal and even Jaye.

and don't forget Willow :)


Tim Minear - Jun 06, 2005 12:17:25 pm PDT #7872 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

Dude, I never touched Willow.


msbelle - Jun 06, 2005 12:18:01 pm PDT #7873 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

oh death by sitting on you. AWESOME!!!


Allyson - Jun 06, 2005 12:20:26 pm PDT #7874 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

(Allyson and Kristen will hopefully back me up on this -- I'm talking Pilot, Old Wounds, Pre-Filer. Body count pretty even, seems to me.)

For five bucks and a Coke, I'll say anything you want.


Jessica - Jun 06, 2005 12:20:29 pm PDT #7875 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

So I'm not sure saying it's all about violence against women washes, frankly.

Did the press get the first three eps, or the pilot and two later ones? I remember w/ Wonderfalls, it was something like 1, 5, and 8. (And then 2 was included in the second wave of press kits, and then Fox changed the order of the other ones.)


DXMachina - Jun 06, 2005 12:20:31 pm PDT #7876 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Dude, I never touched Willow.

Tim killed Tara! Get him!


Tim Minear - Jun 06, 2005 12:22:12 pm PDT #7877 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

Jessica, they got the first three.


Jessica - Jun 06, 2005 12:26:09 pm PDT #7878 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Then I got nuthin'.


joe boucher - Jun 06, 2005 12:32:03 pm PDT #7879 of 10001
I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine

Tim killed Tara! Get him!

Yeah, get him -- so I can buy him a beer!