(Allyson and Kristen will hopefully back me up on this -- I'm talking Pilot, Old Wounds, Pre-Filer. Body count pretty even, seems to me.)
For five bucks and a Coke, I'll say anything you want.
I'll nurse you back to health. I'll wear the nurse outfit!
"BuffyBot" ,'Dirty Girls'
The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
Allyson - Jun 06, 2005 12:20:26 pm PDT #7874 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Jessica - Jun 06, 2005 12:20:29 pm PDT #7875 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
So I'm not sure saying it's all about violence against women washes, frankly.
Did the press get the first three eps, or the pilot and two later ones? I remember w/ Wonderfalls, it was something like 1, 5, and 8. (And then 2 was included in the second wave of press kits, and then Fox changed the order of the other ones.)
DXMachina - Jun 06, 2005 12:20:31 pm PDT #7876 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
Dude, I never touched Willow.
Tim killed Tara! Get him!
Tim Minear - Jun 06, 2005 12:22:12 pm PDT #7877 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"
Jessica, they got the first three.
Jessica - Jun 06, 2005 12:26:09 pm PDT #7878 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Then I got nuthin'.
joe boucher - Jun 06, 2005 12:32:03 pm PDT #7879 of 10001
I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine
Tim killed Tara! Get him!
Yeah, get him -- so I can buy him a beer!
Kevin - Jun 06, 2005 12:32:11 pm PDT #7880 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Am I the only person who likes crime style dramas to be gruesome?
Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 06, 2005 12:43:38 pm PDT #7881 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
In this crowd? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Kristen - Jun 06, 2005 1:13:11 pm PDT #7882 of 10001
I feel like I should do a body count spreadsheet. But I won't. (I do, however, think that would make an excellent feature for your site, Kevin. A weekly butcher's bill.)
I disagree with much of what the Zap2It person had to say. But I think a lot of her comments are a perspective/taste thing. (For example, I'm in the, "Horrifically gory, YAY!" Camp, myself.)
I agree somewhat on the "Rebecca in peril issue." Though now I'm trying to remember all the episodes I've read because I feel like the problem becomes less...problematic? as the season goes on. Plus there are some great Rebecca moments, even while in peril, that mitigate the peril a bit, for me. Therefore, I'm gonna say I agree on the "Rebecca in peril issue," with respect to the first three episodes.
Of course, I am the first to admit that I have no perspective. I couldn't love the show more if it were my own. (Well, maybe a little more. I know my bank balance would love it lots more.) So perhaps I am not the best judge.
Tim Minear - Jun 06, 2005 1:19:59 pm PDT #7883 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"
It's interesting, and maybe after things air we can discuss, but the three I picked to go first were not at all the first three written or produced. I know, I know, you're all thinking "that damn FOX!, airing out of order!" It's me. Not them. I wanted what I thought were strong episodes that represented the tone up front. And there are some continuity things I was careful not to disturb. But if I'd aired strictly as written, she wouldn't have been in peril in the second episode, for instance. But, much as I like that episode (and the network loved it, so they wouldn't have minded it being 2nd and not 4th), I didn't feel it quite represented what the show was as well as say, Pre-Filer or even Old Wounds, which I am running 2nd.