So why bother with "said"? It's medium simple, conveys nothing. If you intend to convey nothing, use nothing.

Sometimes having, "[character] said" helps the reader keep track of who is saying what, especially in a long, intricate piece of dialog. I don't think it's necessary after every speaker says his/her bit, but it can help keep things straight. This is especially true when there are more than two characters talking.

"Valuable point one."

"Ah-hah, but counterpoint."

"Allegedly supportive commentary re: the first person's idea."

"Nicely put, but that allegedly supportive commentary is not really to the point"

A good writer might convey who is saying what in the above by letting us know what the characters think, whether they are the sort of person who makes their own side look stupid, and so on. But I think sprinkingly a few Speaker 1, 2, or 3 saids throughout the above would add a lot to it. And "said" seems more transparent to me than saying, "he intoned," "she sniffed," "he commented," "she drawled," etc. I'm a big fan of dialog heavy writing, and I like "said". My eye just skips right over it, acknowledges the speaker, and goes on to the next bit.

I'm gonna stick with, when the close-quote comes right after a question mark, it's legitimate, nay, called-for, to say "asked" instead of "said". Also, I read journalism a lot. The New York Times has a lot more verve on any given day in its local news section than Michael Crichton has in a novel. In this modern age, the NYT does not necessarily eschew thesauri. I think they even have more synonyms for "said" than Elmore Leonard, although that's not saying very much.

Agreed Crichton is a crap SF writer because he's a crap writer. He's more sort of like a well-researched (or well-bullshitted) terrier with a squeaky chew-toy than he is a novelist. If I want to see someone whale the everliving tar out of an issue, in a way that isn't entertaining or enlightening, I will watch Fox News (for 30 seconds) instead.

I think they even have more synonyms for "said" than Elmore Leonard, although that's not saying very much.

Um? Leonard famously calls for only using "said." See here

Hi. I love Crichton. Sorry.

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P.K. Dick, love him or hate him?

He had an amazing gift for evocative titles, and was extremely influential, and yeah, I find him hard work. But worth it. So, put me down in the Love column, but it is love like going to the gym. I like the end result, not completely crazy about the process.

Sometimes having, "[character] said" helps the reader keep track of who is saying what, especially in a long, intricate piece of dialog. I don't think it's necessary after every speaker says his/her bit, but it can help keep things straight. This is especially true when there are more than two characters talking.

Deb has a bit on this, and I can't do it justice. But there are a million ways to indicate who's talking.

If an author only uses one, all the time? It starts to stick out. And said's precisely the first one I'll notice, because it's the most obvious. To me -- other people obviously don't see it at all.

The exclusive use of "said" rather than synonyms doesn't bother me. Its frequent—nay, continuous—use is another matter.

I've enjoyed every Crichton I've read, only about 4, I think. He's fluff fast reading, good for the summer. Never was bugged by his writing or his style.

And don't many of his stories center around a scientific plot that is not part of our current reality? so while certainly not in the mainstream of science fiction, I think that is an ok label for it. It certainly isn't fantasy. Maybe science fictiony? He's probably the closest I'd come to reading science fiction and is probably a gateway for much more mainstream bestseller readers into science fiction.

The exclusive use of "said" rather than synonyms doesn't bother me.

But "asked" isn't a synonym for "said." Neither is "whined" nor "cajoled."

When presented with a back and forth of A said, B said, A said, B said, A said ... I end up envisioning the two of them standing face to face, playing verbal ping pong. Throw in some action words. Some description. Are they moving? Something. Anything.

Otherwise I feel expositioned at.

Um? Leonard famously calls for only using "said."

I think he follows his own rules about 96% of the time. His rules are pretty funny, though, and it is really cool to see that it is possible to use "he said" as pure punctuation in dialogue. I do think even Leonard might want to vary it up a little, but he's good at what he does.

We are so off-topic right now I can't see straight.

Tim is our thread topic, but he has foresaken us for "work" or somesuch. We are forced to talk about whatever topics float in on the wind.