Does anybody mind if I pass out?

Willow ,'Beneath You'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Allyson - Mar 08, 2005 5:44:16 am PST #5148 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Teh Seth may turn that stereotype around.


victor infante - Mar 08, 2005 6:05:01 am PST #5149 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Teh Seth may turn that stereotype around.

Comics are cool again, but fandoms? I think you're talking a different beast, there. Still, demographics for these things are definitely changing, and I think "Buffy" crystallized a lot of that, so who knows?

And as for men writing fan fic, how come when ever this conversation comes up, the focus is immediately on sexual pairings. A few of us are male, married professionals who like to write episodic stories that don't focus on sex. (Although I admit I'm the guy whose stories have Oz/Justine and a Dawn/Xander in the year 2023.)


Dana - Mar 08, 2005 6:07:29 am PST #5150 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

how come when ever this conversation comes up, the focus is immediately on sexual pairings.

Because the amount of slash and het in fanfic outweighs the amount of gen, regardless of the gender, sexual orientation, or marital status of the author.


victor infante - Mar 08, 2005 6:11:35 am PST #5151 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Because the amount of slash and het in fanfic outweighs the amount of gen, regardless of the gender, sexual orientation, or marital status of the author.

Yeah, I can see that. I just like to tell stories, y'know? It's weird because, on the face of it, the stories I write are what I'd consider fairly mainstream--I try to keep to the basic constraints of what could appear on the TV--and yet sometimes it seems that what I do is an oddity among fan fic writers.


Dana - Mar 08, 2005 6:15:39 am PST #5152 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Ah, the lament of the gen writer. I think it comes back down to that other eternal question of "but *why fanfic?", and for a lot of people, the answer is "So I can get what I don't see on my screen."


victor infante - Mar 08, 2005 6:18:45 am PST #5153 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

"So I can get what I don't see on my screen."

And by that, I mean "porn." (:


shrift - Mar 08, 2005 6:20:03 am PST #5154 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I always got the impression that fanfic was much more of a woman fan phenomenon.

I think it really depends on the fandom and/or genre. In my experience as a fic archivist and con-goer, there's a fairly high percentage of men in fandoms like Buffy and Farscape. And comics, of course.

My default gender assumption for fandom used to be "female", but it isn't now, especially since I've moved back into comics. I think the fan fiction sphere is female-dominated, but anymore that's all I can generalize, because demographics shift like whoa from fandom to fandom.

I've been going to Dragon*Con for the last few years, and it seems like there's a fairly even boy/girl split. Problem is, I've been trespassing in traditionally male space since I was wee, so it's difficult to have perspective.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 08, 2005 7:39:24 am PST #5155 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

With my parties, you'll notice a hugely disproportionate number of really hot women in pretty dresses. I'll never figure out why more men don't attend these things.

Chances are good, yo.

Happily, not just for those seeking hot women in pretty dresses.


Cashmere - Mar 08, 2005 7:56:07 am PST #5156 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I finally replaced my DVD player and am looking at my Wonderfalls DVDs RIGHT NOW! Wheeeeee!


Betsy HP - Mar 08, 2005 8:31:22 am PST #5157 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I mean "porn." (:

Why you think the Net was born? For porn, porn. porn.