Well, we may not have parted on the best of terms. I realize certain words were exchanged. Also, certain... bullets. But that's air through the engine. It's past. We're business people.

Mal ,'Serenity'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


aurelia - Mar 07, 2005 5:04:16 pm PST #5121 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

FOX just aired a promo for a new show starting in April... starring Pamela Anderson.


victor infante - Mar 07, 2005 5:09:59 pm PST #5122 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Re: waaaaay earlier joke on someone, anyone trying to save "Enterprise," the following is from Warren Ellis' newsletter, and begins with a snippet from Jolene Blalock being interviewed:

"I mean, we started out with 13 million viewers on the pilot, and we somehow managed to drive 11 million of them away."

There is an awkward silence when the subject of the final episode is broached.

"I don't know where to begin with that one," she finally stammers. "The final episode is ... appalling."

It is perfumed with the distinct scent of FuckIt, is it not?

One rumour has it that the last episode explains away the entirety of the series as a holographic novel experienced by crew members on the old Patrick Stewart Enterprise. With Bobby Ewing masturbating ferociously in the shower.

I believe I previously mentioned that they could have replaced current episodes with a placard reading FUCK YOU FOR WATCHING. REGARDS, THE MGMT.


JoeCrow - Mar 07, 2005 6:01:29 pm PST #5123 of 10001
"what's left when you take biology and sociology out of the picture?" "An autistic hermaphodite." -Allyson

what's left when you take biology and sociology out of the picture?

An autistic hermaphodite.

Hah! Can I tag that, Allyson?

Suela's an exhibitionist. That's all. Like I'm a krav exhibitionist, but that doesn't mean I'm in a martial arts fandom.

No, as I understand it, that means you're in a cult.

And I always thought that the reason so many fandom things were organised by the closer-to-the-earth posse was because all the organisation minded menfolk were out maintaining The Patriarchy.

Well, not so much "always thought" as "just made up", but whatever.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 07, 2005 6:08:33 pm PST #5124 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

"I mean, we started out with 13 million viewers on the pilot, and we somehow managed to drive 11 million of them away." [emphasis mine]

I feel that somebody should rent a billboard outside Jolene's bedroom window and put a picture of Kirstie Alley as Saavik on one half and Blalock's space catsuit with a red circle and diagonal slash over it on the other.


Allyson - Mar 07, 2005 6:09:04 pm PST #5125 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

FUCK YOU FOR WATCHING. REGARDS, THE MGMT.

See, I heard Buffy wakes up in an institution having hallucinated the show.

Hah! Can I tag that, Allyson?

Sure. With my apologies to autistic hermaphrodites. I'm sure some Buffista, somewhere, knows one who is an exception to the autistic hermaphrodite stereotype.


victor infante - Mar 07, 2005 6:23:24 pm PST #5126 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I'm sure some Buffista, somewhere, knows one who is an exception to the autistic hermaphrodite stereotype.

Nah, that's pretty much him. Her. Whatever.


Strega - Mar 07, 2005 7:08:49 pm PST #5127 of 10001

So I can't say for sure, but it certainly feels like fanfiction is produced by far more women than men, and I don't think that's an error of perception.

I think that's sort of true, but... the fanfiction that men write is often posted to porn sites, not fanfic archives. Because, well, literary merit isn't so much the focus, maybe. If you factor that in, I think the male-female balance comes closer to even. I suspect that it'd still favor women slightly, because I think writing fanfic is a more accepted cultural part of fandom among women, and gets more positive reinforcement from other women.

It's sort of like how the guys argue about what the spaceship does, and the women argue about what the characters on the ship are thinking. And the second one leads into writing fanfic a lot more easily. When talking about characters, it's easier for women to say "I related to this because of something that happened to me..." whereas I think men often feel uncomfortable having that kind of conversation in what's essentially a public venue.

Speaking very, very generally and without intending to suggest that women never argue about spaceships and men never talk about characters, and etc.


Betsy HP - Mar 07, 2005 7:32:49 pm PST #5128 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Because, well, literary merit isn't so much the focus, maybe.

*cough* PWP *cough*

My point being that women can porn it up with great enthusiasm and elan.


DavidS - Mar 07, 2005 7:48:34 pm PST #5129 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

If you factor that in, I think the male-female balance comes closer to even.

Really? I always got the impression that fanfic was much more of a woman fan phenomenon. But I don't really have a sense of how big male written fan porn is to compare.


Consuela - Mar 07, 2005 8:13:29 pm PST #5130 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

the fanfiction that men write is often posted to porn sites, not fanfic archives.

Huh. But is it fanfic, or porn? I mean, the PWP in fanfic is at least intended to be read as those particular characters. Most of the time, anyway. And it's provided to the rest of the fandom as part of the fannish experience.

I'm not explaining my question very well, am I? Sigh.I