Master, is there a krav defense against a bra-snatcher?

Yeah. It primarly involves keeping your shirt on.

Female fans as reduced to using our bras to get a show back on the air?

I think we joked around about some sort of breast oriented campaign for Firefly. Kiba or someone else rather breastacular was going to make shirts. I remember we bandied about something like, "Don't let Firefly go tits up."

Woman are taught to co-operate with each other, rather than compete.

Spoken like someone who has never personally witnessed a BNF throwdown. I've seen plenty of female fannish cooperation, but I've seen just as much frivolous infighting, cruelty and competition. It doesn't take testicles to be a self-centered moron.

(Not to say this person can't have a good experience, but it's a bit much to generalize to the whole gender, much less the whole gender in the fandom context.)

I get really tired of the "women are naturally nicer than men" argument. Doesn't match my experience. People is people.

Okay, blargh.

But in fan campaigns, they both cooperate and lead. We're talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars and worldwide cooperation/communication to accomplish a complex goal.

Yes, but they all did it for the sake of Ben Browders's beaux yeux. Doesn't count. Because they are fangirls.

(Need I say I'm not serious?)

I don't think cooperation = nice, Betsy.

I think it's just a realization that you can't go it alone, and to persuade thousands of people to send postcards or money, you need to strike up alliances.

We're talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars and worldwide cooperation/communication to accomplish a complex goal.

Yeah, but what is female about that? What is done that guys, by virtue of their goolies, couldn't?

Does anyone know what gender is trying to save Enterprise?

Yeah, but what is female about that? What is done that guys, by virtue of their goolies, couldn't?

Nothing. I'm interested in why it tends to be women who tend to pick up this particular gauntlet.

Does anyone know what gender is trying to save Enterprise?

Hermaphodites. I dunno. Is someone trying to save it? Why?

I would agree that women are socialized to be better at that type of cooperative goal achievement. I don't think that is really all that related to how nice they actually are; in Odd Girl Out: The Hidden Agression of Girls, there's a lot of discussion of the fact that, as Betsy said, "people is people", but American girls are taught to display their agression in more covert ways.

I think that makes sense in terms of why there is both solid, cooperative achievement and also backchannel infighting. Not a biological explanation, but a sociological one.