i'm wondering if Sci-Fi will rerun this anytime soon. i had something else i had to watch last night. i'm sure they probably will. what i saw was pretty good.

They're rerunning Part 1 tonight at 7, followed by Part 2, which will run three times in a row, because it's on Sci-Fi.

very cool! thanks!

Call me when Lee Pace shows up.

With it being Pride Month, I imagine Soldier's Girl will be rerun on cable at some point. It'll be tough to spot Pace with those eyebrows waxed, though.

her occasional obnoxiousness is somewhat more believable.

Occassional? She was set up as schmuck bait but I kept wishing her into a cornfield. There was no peril for Dawn, I wanted her to Get dead GET DEAD GET DEAD.

I liked Dawn. And I *loved* Saint Cordy.

You're not my people. Saint Cordy was an abomination.

I liked Dawn. And I *loved* Saint Cordy

Also, the only Whedon character I've never really liked in Jayne, especially in "Bushwhacked."

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Anyway, there's no excuse for a HS sophomore being so irritatingly immature on BtVS, given that we had an entire season populated with them. Can you imagine Dawn and Cordy being the same age? Perzactly.

High School Cordy would have stomped on High School Dawn.

I would have enjoyed that. Dawn brought out my inner bully. I would have relished stuffing her in a locker. She would at least have been off camera for a while. Scrappy Dawn. The Ruiner.

You're a champion, bon bon. A champion.

I didn't mind some growth in Cordelia, but I really feel she got ruined along the way. It stopped being growth, and started being personality-ectomy. I was on board with the change from the end of season 1 of Angel, through the beginning of season 2. On A:ts, Cordelia was featured too heavily to be just the snarker.

Although I did not think so at the time, in retrospect, giving the visions to Cordelia was probably the first thing I would change if I had the talent, money, production staff, and owned the rights to the show, and could somehow do a complete do-over. I think.

I know that if I were Queen of ME, I would undo the demonization of Cordelia. That burnt my ass beyond graftability. Cordelia was uber-human, and/or possibly ur-Human. Whatever...she was [some satisfyingly-gutteral-likely-Teutonic-prefix intended to exponetially emphasize her humanity]- human. CC.V2.St. Corduffy seems to me to be a direct result of the choice to lose her humanity.

Like Xander on Buffy, Cordelia served/could have served as the answer to the question "What are we fighting for?" Answer: Humans; average humans; fallible; the weak but brave, even/especially when feeling afraid humans. Demonizing Cordelia made ugly lumps in the narrative (for me) that never got smoothed over, until the 100th (of 110) episodes of the entire series.

And I think it bothered me most of all because I interpreted it as the first step in setting up an Angel/Cordelia 'ship. I was neutral (if doubtful) toward that. I know I would not have had a hard time accepting that these characters with a completely un-Normal life, who are so very physically beautiful, and so committed to their mutual cause, ended up getting together. What I would have needed to see was:

1) Some chemistry (s7) * "You're Welcome" convinced me this was possible *

2) the Buffy problem somehow addressed

First, I needed it addressed on the Angel side. There were enough times when Angel was put forth as only not being with Buffy because he couldn't be, that I needed to see the change happen. Now, Buffy's relationship with Riley could have served as his moving on point. Buffy's death could have served as his moving on point. In fact, I expected both to be just that, but it never seemed to happen. Buffy's attitude when she got back from heaven could have served as his moving on point. Learning of Buffy's affair with Spike could have served as his moving on point. I realize that to some extent, the WB's refusal to do cross-overs hampered the tying up of this storyline, but they mentioned Buffy from time to time.

I would still have needed to see it addressed from Cordelia's POV, as well. I completely understand the soul-loss clause of the curse isn't sex-based. What I would have had to see is something that indicated that Cordelia's ego could handle the knowledge that although a relationship with Buffy caused Angel such perfect happiness that he lost his soul, a relationship with her did not have the same effect. That would have required showing, not telling, and a whole big build.

Ah well. Still miss the show, horribly.

Minearverse is NAFDA, Cindy. No need for the whitefont.

Cordelia's growth to me was more about filling in the empty spaces of what she was on Buffy, seen in Helpless:

BUFFY: Cordelia, would you drive me home?

A quick break in Cordy's Cordiness, actually care and concern comes over her face

CORDELIA: Of course.

This was back when Buffy was my girl, and we never really saw Cordy be anything but a bitch.

And so, the scene on the roof, "I'll kill you dead" when Angel asks if she'd take down Angelus, was where I wanted to see Cordy go. Angel's sister, his ally, the only one with a life outside of demony boogeymen, not a potential Angel fuckhole.

Cordy was never Mother, never should have been. It was the destruction of the character. If they needed a mother figure, they needed another actor. Not our girl.

I like that scene in "Helpless."