you know, the exclusive, real-fans-only Dawn Massacre scene.
I sooo wanted to see that.
This must be what going mad feels like.
Simon ,'Jaynestown'
The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
Tamara - Jun 07, 2004 8:28:37 pm PDT #416 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.
JohnSweden - Jun 07, 2004 8:29:01 pm PDT #417 of 10001
I can't even.
I also like that Tim episode, "The Horrible Painful Death of Spike." Though I wish they'd left in the extra scenes on the DVD - you know, the exclusive, real-fans-only Dawn Massacre scene.
They should film this double-feature and show it every ... day.
Hush still ahead of The Body on my Enjoy-O-meter. Don't see that changing.
Polter-Cow - Jun 07, 2004 8:31:34 pm PDT #418 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that. I love "Hush." It's just so brilliantly constructed and shot. And funny.
Tamara - Jun 07, 2004 8:39:55 pm PDT #419 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.
Hush is my favorite. Always will be.
Gris - Jun 07, 2004 8:40:13 pm PDT #420 of 10001
Hey. New board.
Yeah, they cancelled the Dawn massacre section when they realized that so many people would enjoy it, rather than get overwhelmingly sad and depressed. Tim wouldn't go for a happy death. You know how he is.
(Personally? Sad. Love Dawn. Whatev'.)
(If anybody asks, I'm not here. I'm working.)
Allyson - Jun 07, 2004 8:57:44 pm PDT #421 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
I still can't figure out why we were tortured with Dawn. Or SaintCordy. Why torture the audience? Why was 15 year old Dawn written as a 9 year old spoiled brat?
Did they not learn from Oliver on the Brady Bunch? WTF?
ETA: Why didn't they just buy Buffy a puppy?
Gris - Jun 07, 2004 9:10:31 pm PDT #422 of 10001
Hey. New board.
My impression of Dawn's age: Highschool freshmen in season 7, thus, 14-15. Making her 12-13 in season 5. More believable.
They should have stuck with that, and not thrown in the unfortunate "Yes, the 15-year-old can be alone for half an hour in her LOCKED HOUSE." Even if Michelle Trachtenberg didn't look remotely 12 in season 5. Or 13 in season 6. Nick Brendon never looked 15 either, but we let that slide.
Looking at it that way, her occasional obnoxiousness is somewhat more believable. As is her slow maturing into the seventh season. I've actually HEARD 13-year-olds shrike "Get out get out get out!" or equivalents, and that was pretty spot-on.
(In other words, yes, I still like the character.)
Also? Like Zoe. And Jaye. For on-topiccy goodness. Or, to stick with more controversial things, I like both Manuel and Wyoming.
Invisible Green - Jun 07, 2004 9:27:06 pm PDT #423 of 10001
I still can't figure out why we were tortured with Dawn. Or SaintCordy.
I liked Dawn. And I *loved* Saint Cordy. Although I guess she was more of a figure than a character. And hella better than any S4 cordy. And her hair: great hair! But my fav's are "Belonging" Cordy and "You're Welcome" Cordy.
Invisible Green - Jun 07, 2004 9:32:23 pm PDT #424 of 10001
My impression of Dawn's age: Highschool freshmen in season 7, thus, 14-15.
I'm pretty sure she was a sophomore in season 7.
Season 5 and season 6 have references to Dawn being a freshman during both of those respective seasons.
Also, the only Whedon character I've never really liked in Jayne, especially in "Bushwhacked."
Gris - Jun 07, 2004 9:38:42 pm PDT #425 of 10001
Hey. New board.
(shrug). I'm not saying my timeline is even remotely right. It's just how I think they originally intended to write her (I know they meant for Dawn to be younger at first than she eventually evolved into being, which is why the "The Real Me" Dawn is so clearly young junior-high diary-writing doesn't know about lesbian sex "I bet they have sex!"-like.
She's 12, then. That's what my brain says. I'm sticking to it.