Patron: That girl is a witch. Mal: Yeah, but she's our witch.

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The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Strega - Jan 26, 2005 7:47:54 am PST #4071 of 10001

Allyson -- Yup. I'm always around. Because I actually am solitary, heh. Any night but Friday is fine. Just give me a heads-up so I'm off the phone.

Jon B. --

What makes you think that preferring to live alone is a genetic trait, passed down from parent to child?

I was just trying to paraphrase so it's not my opinion, but that's not what I said. It doesn't matter if it's genetic or learned; it's still self-correcting. If it's genetic, the genes aren't going to become dominant. If it's learned behavior, then there's nobody around to whom you can teach it. And if (and this is my personal opinion) it's due to a combination of a thousand tiny things, it's not likely to be a problem.

I think RAH's train of thought was "Here's how families are changing, and may continue to change, and before you say 'maybe we'll all live alone' here's why I don't think that's likely, and anyway...." It's a one-sentence parenthetical note.


arby - Jan 26, 2005 8:36:46 am PST #4072 of 10001
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)

Uh, single parents aren't living alone -- they are living with their kid. No partner isn't the same as alone.

Oh yeah. Duh.

I got nothin'.


Betsy HP - Jan 26, 2005 10:17:34 am PST #4073 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Okay. Line marriage as proposed by Heinlein works like this.

I marry Tim. Tim marries ita. ita marries Mark Dacascos. Mark marries Kate Winslet. And so on. Each new person is joining the Hanes Perry marriage. (It's named after me because I thought of it. So there.) New partners have to be approved by the existing members of the marriage. The Hanes Perry marriage owns property in common and raises children of the marriage together. The marriage's children do NOT marry back into the lineage.

P.S. Everybody is heterosexual because this is a middle-period Heinlein novel.


Jesse - Jan 26, 2005 10:22:49 am PST #4074 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

So, you're not married to Mark or Kate, Betsy? They're just in your line?

And everyone but you gets to be married to two people at a time?


brenda m - Jan 26, 2005 10:24:05 am PST #4075 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Ok, but is there back and forth along the line? Is ita restricted to Tim and Mark, or can she mess around with you and Kate Winslet if the spirit moves her?

Or, if the het thing messes things up, say Kate then marries Sean. Free for all, or do you and ita just get to gnash your teeth jealously?


Betsy HP - Jan 26, 2005 10:27:47 am PST #4076 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I'm married to everybody in the line. Everybody is married to everybody else. You just sign up boy, girl, boy, girl in order.

The way I should have put it: I marry Tim. Tim and I marry ita. Tim, ita, and I marry Mark. And so on. So when Kate marries Sean, ita and I are in clover. Assuming it's Sean Bean. If it's Sean William Scott, ita and I exercise our veto power.

Because this is middle-period Heinlein, it never even occurs to ita and me to mess around with Kate. What a waste.


DXMachina - Jan 26, 2005 10:35:13 am PST #4077 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

It's essentially a way of dodging inheritance taxes.


Betsy HP - Jan 26, 2005 10:37:39 am PST #4078 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

As originally conceived, it's a way of setting up a stable family in an environment that is both very dangerous and woman-poor. (Yes, the boy-girl rotation doesn't work with that. It's presented as one family's habit. Don't yell at me, yell at Heinlein.) If you have two mothers and three fathers in the family, when a parent dies, there are still several people around to raise the kids.


JenP - Jan 26, 2005 10:49:00 am PST #4079 of 10001

Is there a limit to the number of people in a line marriage? I'm having fun making mine up, but I think it could get unwieldy.


Allyson - Jan 26, 2005 10:52:39 am PST #4080 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

And Tim, as first husband, at age 102, has the right to bed down with all teh new wives first, right-o?