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The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Ocipital - Jan 03, 2005 3:11:18 am PST #3798 of 10001

I'm currently working on some mini biographies for the ME peeps, and im getting increasingly confused about Tim's earlier work, which is such a shock given the amount of avalible interviews and quotes, especially in comparison to Greenwalt (who turned out to be fairly straight foward).

The only stuff ive seen Tim actually mention in interviews pre Angel, is Lois and Clark, X-Files, and Strange World (though im sure i read him mention High Tide somewhere).

The confussion begins with Zorro which TimMinear.Net says he wrote for from 1990 - 1992. US.IMDB lists it as Zorro(1997), whilst TVTome lists it as Zorro(1957). Looks like its just a name mismatch and they both mean Zorro(1990).

Then after a couple of movie credits we hit 1994/95, where on all three sites Tim is credited on both New Zeeland based "High Tide" as co-producer where he writes 9 episodes and Robin's Hoods as Story Editor, which doesnt credit any individual episode writers. Was Tim doubling up or was one of the shows held over from the previous season. I have further confussion because the mini-bio on TVTome mentions this "Early in his career, he was the Story Editor for a season and a half on the syndicated series "High Tide" for which he wrote a number of episodes, under both his own name and the pseudonym Chris Baena.". I've never heard of any pseudonym, but Baena is credited with High Tide all the way to 1997, though he is currently not a member of the WGA.

1995/1996 I have nothing on any site, then 1996/1997 doubling up again, with Lois and Clark and Two, similar situation the next season with Tim Credited on both x-Files and Ghost stories. WGA does list two WGA writers Tim Minear, and a Timothy P. Minear, though the same agency for both suggests its a duplicate, and not another writer who may have confussed researchers on TVTome and Us.IMDB (TM.Net does not list Two or Ghost Stories).

Anyone have any ideas on the right sequence of events.


Astarte - Jan 03, 2005 5:11:17 am PST #3799 of 10001
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.

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§ ita § - Jan 03, 2005 5:19:42 am PST #3800 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Ocipital, I don't know if Kristen will see it here, but she runs timminear.net, and can be trusted to have all her facts right, and is probably one of the best people (outside the Minear himself) to straighten things up for you.


Kristen - Jan 03, 2005 5:35:12 am PST #3801 of 10001

Okay, lemme 'splain...no, there is too much. Lemme link to the original TMnet bio.

ETA: Also, the reason that I don't have specific episodes to credit for some of these shows is because, well, they didn't have fansites with writer information when I first compiled the list. I dimly recall that Tim was going to take a look at the filmography section and get back to me but then he got busy. And pretty much stayed that way for the next five years.


Ocipital - Jan 03, 2005 6:32:01 am PST #3802 of 10001

Thanks Kristen,

So the psyedonym thing is true, though i still cant see it being Chris Baena (though it does sort of sound like Tim Minear if you distort your voice), not if he left half way through the second season, unless other writers decided to keep this psydonym going.

Guess Two and Ghost stories are bogus entries, wont mention them then.


Kristen - Jan 03, 2005 8:06:35 am PST #3803 of 10001

Okay, I've tried to respond to this twice now but my pc keeps freaking out. I think it's the rain's fault.

Anyway, Tim confirmed the facts in that bio prior to my posting it on the site. So I think that the pseudonym listed is probably the correct one.

Unless it's under the pseudonym that he was convicted of a felony. Hmmmm...

ETA:

Guess Two and Ghost stories are bogus entries, wont mention them then.

I have no idea if they're bogus or not. I've never heard them mentioned before and they weren't included in his IMDB listing 4 to 5-ish years ago.


Ocipital - Jan 03, 2005 10:54:41 am PST #3804 of 10001

I have no idea if they're bogus or not. I've never heard them mentioned before and they weren't included in his IMDB listing 4 to 5-ish years ago.

I've not come across them mentioned anywhere, I guess they could be stuff he did freelance whilst settling in to L&C and teh X-Files, but both those sites have had incorrect info up before, US.IMDB credits Fury as writing the pilot for Ball and Chain in 2001, which im certain Howard Gordon wrote.


DCJensen - Jan 03, 2005 11:06:03 am PST #3805 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Ocipital, if you put a > mark before a quote, it indents the quoted paragraph so we know you are quoting.


Kristen - Jan 03, 2005 11:21:36 am PST #3806 of 10001

US.IMDB credits Fury as writing the pilot for Ball and Chain in 2001, which im certain Howard Gordon wrote.

IIRC, Fury did a rewrite on the pilot.


Ocipital - Jan 03, 2005 12:57:21 pm PST #3807 of 10001

Ocipital, if you put a > mark before a quote, it indents the quoted paragraph so we know you are quoting.

I did, I also had a whole other paragraph that has disapeared. Doesnt matter now.

IIRC, Fury did a rewrite on the pilot.

Now that I didnt know, guess variety and the biz mags missed it but got the fact that Gordon was writing it, which US.IMDB missed. Whilst the buffy and Fury fans were doubtless more aware of Fury's involvement than Gordons, and it ended up on US.IMDB.

Question, would Fury have left Buffy for B&C, cos I really would have missed his Angel episodes. (Not much good left with Buffy after s5, imo, for any writer, save Joss and Goddard)